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SMALL POX AND HALLOWEEN CANDY- A short primer on viral disease transmission
Dr. Brian Kopp (proud2bRC)

Posted on 10/21/2001 10:34:13 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM

A short primer on viral disease transmission. Many viral diseases are transmitted via fomites:

fomite

SYLLABICATION: fo·mite
PRONUNCIATION: fmt
NOUN: An inanimate object or substance that is capable of transmitting infectious organisms from one individual to another.
ETYMOLOGY: Back-formation from New Latin fmits, pl. of Latin fmes, tinder, from fovre, to warm. See dhegwh- in Appendix I.

In other words, you touch something, get the virus on your hand, then touch you face, mouth, nose or other mucus membrane.

Candy wrappers would be a perfect fomite because the act of handling the candy wrapper occurs immediately before the contact with the mouth.

In other words, no need to inject anything.

Just a light dusting of smallpox virus in the form or a powder. If done correctly it would be undetectable.

And unlike anthrax, which requires thousands of huge bacterial spores be inhaled into the lungs, relatively few microscopic smallpox viruses would be required. And nasal exposure would be sufficient to cause full blown infection, whereas nasal exposure with anthrax is relatively harmless.

No trick or treating for my kids this year.

Candy man
News/Current Events
Source: snopes.com
Published: Oct 20 Author: Snopes.com
Posted on 10/20/01 6:26 PM Eastern by earaiak

I called the Hackensack location (because I grew sick of the false alarms and rumors) and this information is true. Guys be careful a notice just came to me from someone that works in Costco. 2 Arabic guys bought more than $35,000.00 dollars worth of candy, in Wayne $15,000.00 & in Hackensack $20,0000.00. After they left they found out their Costco i.d was fake, & they paid the whole thing cash. The F.B.I. was notified just be careful with your kids for trick o' treating on Halloween!!! i just thought u wanted to know that. DON"T LET THOSE KIDS GO OUT FOR HALLOWEEN!


No kneejerking allowed. So far it hasn't been unsubstantiated. Check out the snopes site for more info: The Candy Man



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To: proud2bRC
I'll admit the smallpox candy scenario is pretty wild. But...

1. The FBI is involved and has taken people into custody over this... Middle Eastern men.

2. We know we're currently under biological attack, and the attacks appear related to the attack on 9/11, with a probable Iraqi connection.

3. We know that Sadaam has developed smallpox as a biological weapon.

So... whatever is happening with these verified candy cases, we know that whatever's going on isn't completely innocent. This is not a case of "nothing to see here folks, please move along."

121 posted on 10/21/2001 2:44:04 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Paul C. Jesup
"Routine smallpox immunizations stopped in 1972."

Well, that WAS my point, wasn't it?

122 posted on 10/21/2001 2:46:15 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: rwfromkansas
Carroll said it would be premature to draw conclusions about the purchaser's intent for the candy, which agents had not found by Friday night

Many convenience stores nationwide are run by or employ foreigners. This IS being paranoid, but if a loose network of sympathizers exists in the USA, it would not be difficult at all to get individually wrapped candy bars back on shelfs somewhere in the USA. My guess is the stuff has not been found because it has already been moved.

123 posted on 10/21/2001 2:51:13 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Sabertooth
"Keep in mind, the FBI has taken some of the large candy purchasers into custody..."

And, they can't account for the whereabouts of the $80,000 worth of candy they purchased.

If that doesn't make the radar go up...

124 posted on 10/21/2001 2:51:46 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Sabertooth
My neighborhood is a trick-or-treater's magnet. We get so many kids that everyone eventually runs out of candy. Between 6 and 9 pm, you might as well not shut your door in between trick-or-treaters.

My own kids have been looking forward to this a long time.

I am very torn, not wanting to cower in fear and keep my kids in because of our fertile imaginations, and yet my primary raison d'etre is to keep my kids safe.

I mean, it would be possible for even Middle Easterners to want to make innocent profits, selling candy to discounters before Halloween. It would be perfectly plausible for these men to have overstayed their visas a bit.

Yet, we are at war, and we are having mail drops of anthrax at this time. What if anthrax was just the beginning? What if the terrorists have smallpox and wish to use our practice of Halloween to gain easy access to our children? Surely not every neighborhood in the US would be targeted, but how would we ever know which ones were?

Torn between the tin hat and the ostrich.

125 posted on 10/21/2001 2:54:23 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: rwfromkansas
"Just what would they do w/the candy though? They can't give it out to half the nation's youth?"

They could tamper with some of it, and then return it to the stores for restocking, or leave "sealed cartons" at various charity drops, and so forth.

126 posted on 10/21/2001 2:55:16 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: rwfromkansas
"There was 2 men.....it says the suspect is in custody, yet there were apparently 2 men according to snopes in other stores also who bought candy....this is confusing."

Well, it might be confusing. Or, it might be nation-wide.

127 posted on 10/21/2001 2:58:30 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Yaelle
"Torn between the tin hat and the ostrich."

If you're wearing a tin hat, what's the FBI wearing?

128 posted on 10/21/2001 3:00:10 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: proud2bRC
How many people remember the correlation between small pox immunity and milk maids with cowpox? Wait until these terrorist creeps figure out that the way to infect the American public is imported food. We get about 90% of our ground beef that way. The Mexicans accept beef cattle from virtually anywhere. I'm sure all those physicians out there told the public health system and the insurers of the grocery chains about the risk when we passed NAFTA.
129 posted on 10/21/2001 3:08:10 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: TwoStep
KOBI would like that very much!
130 posted on 10/21/2001 3:16:25 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: Yaelle
I think if you live near an area with a lot of Middle East immigrants, you should not take your kids trick-or-treating or buy any candy. I probably will take mine but I don't live in a diverse area, there aren't that many Muslims here and none in my town so I think it will be fairly safe.
131 posted on 10/21/2001 3:23:28 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: It's me
Ok, so what if this does happen? what do we as Americans do? My idea:

Large USAF C-17's and C-5's, with spraying equipment, like giant crop dusters, take off from the East coast. Arriving at the Moroccon shore, they turn their sprayers on. The continue to spray; across Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, and Egypt. A few fly South over Sudan. The rest continue to fly East, over the Arabian pennisula. Across the Persian Gulf they proceed over Iran. Somewhere here they're refueled in mid-air by KC-10's. They continue on across Afghanistan and Pakistan. The sprayers are turned off over India, turned on again over Bangladesh, off again over Burma, and finally turned on again over Indonesia.

did I leave anyone out?

132 posted on 10/21/2001 3:31:01 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: proud2bRC
Does anyone remember how former Sec. of HHS Donna Shalala vigorously fought to have our sample of smallpox destroyed so that no vaccines could be made?

At the time, Russia had the only other known sample. Now it is assumed that a couple more terrorist nations have it.

Had the Clinton administration had their way, we would be in deep trouble now. Far deeper than we are.

133 posted on 10/21/2001 3:40:48 PM PDT by whoever
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To: Alas Babylon!
"did I leave anyone out?"

Louis Farrakhan.

134 posted on 10/21/2001 3:48:18 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
PS I'll volunteer to sample them for you 1st.

You are so dear. I'm sure my posts would lack "color" if my supply of M&M's dwindled. Very very sad.

Cheers, CC :)

135 posted on 10/21/2001 3:55:37 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Me too, on your ping list, please
136 posted on 10/21/2001 3:58:07 PM PDT by upcountry miss
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To: proud2bRC
Do you know what the incubation period is for smallpox?
If the candy has already been returned to the store... then someone else may have already purchased it, touched it, and become infected.
Could smallpox be spreading already?
137 posted on 10/21/2001 3:58:19 PM PDT by Qathleen
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To: upcountry miss
"on your ping list, please"

You have been added!
138 posted on 10/21/2001 4:06:23 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Joe 6-pack
my son would love it
139 posted on 10/21/2001 4:06:41 PM PDT by didi
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UN's SMALLPOX TERROR ALERT 10/21/01
News/Current Events News
Source: The Observer
Published: 10/21/01 Author: Anthony Browne
66 comments.

UN's smallpox terror alert War on Terrorism: Observer special Anthony Browne, health editor Sunday October 21, 2001 The Observer Governments around the world have been warned to prepare against a terrorist smallpox attack which could kill millions. The World Health Organisation has told them to ensure they can produce enough vaccine to protect their population against the disease, and is preparing to order mass precautionary vaccination of all citizens. 'The unthinkable is no longer unthinkable and we need to prepare for that,' said a spokesperson for the WHO, the United Nations' health agency. 'There has been a lot of concern ...

9595370 posted on 10/20/01 11:13 PM eastern by Davea

A Scramble to Counter Any Threat of Smallpox
News/Current Events News
Source: New York Times
Published: Saturday, October 20, 2001 Author: MELODY PETERSEN and KEITH BRADSHER
9 comments.

October 20, 2001 A Scramble to Counter Any Threat of Smallpox By MELODY PETERSEN and KEITH BRADSHER fter announcing plans to stockpile 300 million doses of smallpox vaccine, the government must now determine where it can quickly get so much. Under an existing contract, a small Massachusetts biotechnology company called Acambis (news/quote), which has about 150 employees, will produce 54 million doses. Tommy G. Thompson, secretary of health and human services, said this week that Acambis had agreed to speed production so that those doses could be delivered by next summer. Mr. Thompson also said he was negotiating with ...

9578438 posted on 10/20/01 12:00 AM eastern by JohnHuang2

60 Minutes reported Sunday night that Iraq has a strain of smallpox!
News/Current Events News Keywords: AMERICA AT WAR
Source: NewsMax.com
Published: 10/7/2001 Author: With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
7 comments.

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9323728 posted on 10/8/01 12:14 AM eastern by Bob Evans


140 posted on 10/21/2001 4:06:43 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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