It doesn't matter to me...I was just trying to "get a room" for this discussion at Mud's request. Oh well, as long as we keep it to one topic at a time it shouldn't get too bad.
I believe that alcohol gives the American people a competitive edge. For everything, there is a season, and there should be a season for relaxation to refile everything.
If your argument is that alcohol makes people less stressful, you should keep in mind that there are other ways for people to relax. You can work out, you can watch TV, you can go to a NASCAR race, you can make love with your spouse, you can call a friend, you can take a nap. Trust me, there is no shortage of pleasant diversions we can undertake. Alcohol is not the be-all and end-all of relaxation, so raising the tax on alcohol does not mean you're going to be more stressful. Besides, if alcohol were the only outlet you had for relaxing, then it's a good bet you're an alcoholic, and you probably have more serious problems than paying a little extra tax for your Budweiser.
A survey was done (and I don't have it, so don't ask) that showed that people who drink are more intelligent than those who don't.
Sorry, but I would have to see that survey to accept that premise. If, like you've said, poor people are more prone to drink, and poor people are generally not as well educated as middle-class and upper-class people, it doesn't add up.
While drunk driving does kill, more would die if alcohol wasn't available to the masses.
This is another specious claim that needs evidence to back it up. Were there any studies done that support this theory?
What separates us from the rest of the world is partially our ability to reason things through better than the rest of the world. As long as we can outsmart the enemy, we can be safe from the enemy.
Are you trying to say that alcohol gives us an edge in intelligence? Didn't you know that alcohol kills brain cells?
If no one drank there would be fewer drunk driving deaths but more deaths and murders due to stress and then there's the threat of losing our competitive edge with the result being foreign captivity which would kill millions like in WW2.
Whoa there, cowboy...never mind the fact that you don't need alcohol to de-stress, as I stated earlier; now you're saying that if our soldiers are a little bit on edge, they'll get captured and/or killed by the millions? If you're on the battlefield, you're going to be stressed anyway at the prospect of the enemy blowing your brains out! That's a little higher on a soldier's priority list than worrying about not getting a beer last night.
I know you're not going to agree with me on this point but luckily we all have a vote and you're not king.
Nope, my vote cancels out yours.
That's the trouble with liberals, they see death by guns and so they say "get rid of guns" without seeing the resultant criminal and government rampage that would follow. Liberals see drunk driving deaths and say "get rid of beer" and they can't see the consequences of a stressed out population and a dumber society.
I'm not going to get into a debate on gun control, but I'm not saying "get rid of beer". I'm saying put a luxury tax on beer -- big difference. We tried prohibition before and had to repeal it.
And more murder due to stress will outnumber the deaths you were trying to prevent in the first place not to mention the strokes and heart disease from a non-alcoholic diet.
The studies have indicated that alcohol may decrease your risk of a stroke. Not drinking alcohol does not raise your chances for a stroke, as you seem to indicate.
Just as I thought, you liberals consider everthing but bread and milk luxury items. That gives you the moral initiative to steal from the poor like you've been doing for 70+ years.
No, I was giving just a couple of examples of staples. Don't put words into my mouth.
But it's thievery. It's liberal thievery from the poor. Liberals say that they are for the poor but they're not, the poor are slaves to the liberals dues to their extremely high "sin" taxes.
Actually, if you want to talk about thievery from the poor, we can talk about how Republicans have cut taxes across the board for the rich but virtually ignored the poor. A poor person who doesn't drink is no "slave" to any luxury tax, but a poor person who has to pay a disproportionate amount of taxes is.
Too bad, it's a relatively free country and alcoholic beverages are the preferred ralaxative. The bible says to drink for health and so you can't convince me you know better than the bible.
Alcohol is not the be-all and end-all of relaxation, so raising the tax on alcohol does not mean you're going to be more stressful.
Alcoholic beverages are the preferred realaxative. Majority rules on this subject. The fact that you liberals use the people's preference to steal from the poor proves how dispicible you are.
Besides, if alcohol were the only outlet you had for relaxing, then it's a good bet you're an alcoholic, and you probably have more serious problems than paying a little extra tax for your Budweiser.
Another typical liberal response. Everyone who does anything is automatically addicted to that thing. Liberals are addicted to the filthy lucre they recieve from taxing the hell out of the poor.
Sorry, but I would have to see that survey to accept that premise.
It doesn't matter if you believe me or not. Alcohol is not going to be outlawed. You wanted to discuss this subject, I gave you the reason I believe what I do and it doesn't matter to me what you believe because the fact that you are a liberal already proves you are unable to reason things out.
If, like you've said, poor people are more prone to drink, and poor people are generally not as well educated as middle-class and upper-class people, it doesn't add up.
You're lying, I didn't say the poor were more prone to drink but that a greater proportion of their pay is taken when you liberals tax the hell out of staples of the American diet.
This is another specious claim that needs evidence to back it up.
No it doesn't. I believe what I believe. If you don't agree with me,I don't give a damn because you're an idiot liberal anyway.
Were there any studies done that support this theory?
I don't know. The universities are run by lying liberals anyway so even if there was, the results could be taken with a grain of salt.
Are you trying to say that alcohol gives us an edge in intelligence?
Yes.
Didn't you know that alcohol kills brain cells?
The alcohol molecule takes the place of a water molecule in the nueral connectors in the brain, lessening the connector's efficiency, that's what make you feel drunk. Later the water molecule comes to replace the alcohol molecule with time. I believe the belief that alcohol kills brain cells is myth. I believe that alcohol helps intelligence by cleaning up the vessels that run throughout the brain. Again, I don't care if you believe me or not, that's what I believe and I've never seen anything to suggest I'm wrong.
Whoa there, cowboy...never mind the fact that you don't need alcohol to de-stress, as I stated earlier;...
You don't but you're not taking it away from me.
...now you're saying that if our soldiers are a little bit on edge, they'll get captured and/or killed by the millions?
No, I'm saying that alcohol improves the intellegence of people that drink which gives us a competitive advantage or at least keeps us even with many countries of the world.
If you're on the battlefield, you're going to be stressed anyway at the prospect of the enemy blowing your brains out! That's a little higher on a soldier's priority list than worrying about not getting a beer last night.
I wasn't talking about the individual soldier.
Nope, my vote cancels out yours.
And mine yours.
I'm not going to get into a debate on gun control, but I'm not saying "get rid of beer". I'm saying put a luxury tax on beer -- big difference.
Yes, you're trying to tell people how to live and if they don't do as you say, they have to pay you tribute. You people are thieves.
We tried prohibition before and had to repeal it.
Exactly. So you liberals just steal from the poor instead of let people live the way they want.
The studies have indicated that alcohol may decrease your risk of a stroke. Not drinking alcohol does not raise your chances for a stroke, as you seem to indicate.
You just contradicted yourself. The French drink every day. They have the lowest cases of Strokes and Heart disease. Read it and weep.
No, I was giving just a couple of examples of staples. Don't put words into my mouth.
Thieves. You people are thieves.
Actually, if you want to talk about thievery from the poor, we can talk about how Republicans have cut taxes across the board for the rich but virtually ignored the poor.
As I said before cutting taxes across the board increases opportunities for the poor. You liberals aren't smart enough to see a couple steps ahead.
A poor person who doesn't drink is no "slave" to any luxury tax, but a poor person who has to pay a disproportionate amount of taxes is.
Exactly. Most people drink. Liberals use this fact to steal from the poor to fund their high places. Thieves. You people are dispicible thieves.