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Russian Troops Kill 20 Rebels "Among those killed was Ali Demayev, a Chechen brigadier general"
AP via Yahoo! News ^ | Monday October 15 12:09 PM ET | YURI BAGROV

Posted on 10/15/2001 2:17:36 PM PDT by Pericles

Monday October 15 12:09 PM ET

Russian Troops Kill 20 Rebels

By YURI BAGROV, Associated Press Writer

NAZRAN, Russia (AP) - Russian troops killed 20 rebels and lost five men in scattered clashes with separatists in the breakaway province of Chechnya, officials said Monday.

Military officials also said attackers believed to be rebels fired on a civilian bus, killing six people near Argun, nine miles east of Grozny. However, they gave no further details and the shooting could not be confirmed with the rebels.

Also near Grozny, federal investigators were examining the bodies of 12 civilians found in a burial site who bore the signs of violent death.

The Russian commandant's office in Grozny said the 20 separatist fighters had been killed since Sunday as troops combed areas in southern and southeastern Chechnya, strongholds of the rebels.

Among those killed was Ali Demayev, a Chechen brigadier general described as a top aide to separatist president Aslan Maskhadov, who was shot inside his house in the area of Gudermes, Chechnya's second-largest city 19 miles east of Grozny.

Demayev, who served as Maskhadov's envoy to various field commanders, was killed in a ``carefully planned joint operation'' of Russia's Federal Security Service and defense and interior ministry troops, said the Russian commander in Chechnya, Gen. Vladimir Moltenskoi.

Troops also clashed with separatist fighters who attempted to break into the village of Ushkaloi in southern Chechnya in several vehicles on Monday. Two cars were destroyed and four rebels captured, the commandant's office said.

Russian forces also used aircraft and artillery to pound rebel positions in Chechnya's south and southeast.

Two Russian soldiers were killed in Chechen shooting attacks since Saturday, and three more died in Grozny in separate incidents when a truck and an armored personnel carrier hit land mines, according to military officials in Gudermes.

Interior troops in Grozny opened fire on two Chechens suspected of trying to plant a land mine, killing them in a subsequent shootout, said the ITAR-TASS news agency.

Chechnya won de facto independence after a 1994-96 war with Moscow. Federal forces returned three years later after militants based in Chechnya raided a neighboring Russian region and after bombings blamed on the separatists killed more than 300 people in Russian cities.


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To: Republic of Texas
I hope, and suspect, I'm not the only one.

You got that right. The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.

21 posted on 10/15/2001 4:54:19 PM PDT by The Real Deal
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To: Egg
That missile defense shield is sounding better and better...

Missile defence shield always sounded good to me. The nukes that are in suitcases have a potential that is really scary, too. If we get attacked with one of those, I suspect that it will be time to reduce our ICBM nuke supply on a good part of the middle east.

24 posted on 10/15/2001 5:01:55 PM PDT by The Real Deal
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To: Republic of Texas; madrussian
The Chechens as well as other Muslims never wanted this war. It was started by an opportunist war lord (Dudayev was killed in the first year of the first war when he made a cell phone call and the Russians dropped a cruise missile on him) who used Islamists to push his own personal criminal agenda (control of oil route). The mistake dead Dudayev made was soon realized by his people when they found out that instead of being used by the Islamists the Islamists were using them. That is when Chechnya turned into hell on earth when the Russians had pulled back and the non-fundamentalist Muslims lost control to the Osama Bin Ladin backed Wahabists. Chechnya can only return to peace when these militants are hunted down all killed and the Russian flag waves on over their bleached bones.
25 posted on 10/15/2001 5:02:28 PM PDT by Pericles
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To: Yehuda
You had me going there for a minute
26 posted on 10/15/2001 5:04:35 PM PDT by Pericles
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To: Yehuda
Rejecting any parallel to the U.S. campaign to wipe out the al-Qaida network in Afghanistan by force, the State Department said it remained opposed to Russia's targeting of terrorists for assassination.

They may want them alive so that they can get information out of them.

27 posted on 10/15/2001 5:05:44 PM PDT by The Real Deal
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To: Yehuda
That has been a consistent American position to push Russians into negotiations with a group of terrorists that aren't recognized internationally as any state entity. Russians will be wise to brush American objections off and do what they gotta do to clean up Chechnya of the Wahhabites.
28 posted on 10/15/2001 5:07:29 PM PDT by madrussian
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To: Pericles
You make an important distinction between Chechens in general and terrorists.
29 posted on 10/15/2001 5:09:46 PM PDT by madrussian
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To: madrussian
Go Russkies go!

By the way, just saw the promo for "The Last Castle" on Fox News, it opens Friday. I plan to go.

30 posted on 10/15/2001 5:13:28 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: madrussian; Yehuda
 

You must read the book "Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared War on America"  by Yossef Bodansky Not just about Bin Laden by a long shot. All about how the Muslim Jihad has gone global with all the Jihadist groups communicating with each other. Saudi Arabia with their Wahhabis being the prime funder of operations and culprit

BTW Bodansky sure seems like Russian Jewish name!  Hahhaha

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31 posted on 10/15/2001 5:42:06 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: looois
you should have been rooting since 1071 had the Byzantines won then 1453 would be just a foot note . . .
32 posted on 10/15/2001 5:48:34 PM PDT by Nat Turner
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To: Pericles; madrussian
Screw the Chechens! Just another bunch of barbaric 3rd worlders. They love to torture and distribute recruitment videos of these tortures of Russian prisoners ......... and videos of them slicing heads off of captives. Islamic depravity in action!

When will Americans stop romanticizing such scum from "intriguing" cultures?

33 posted on 10/15/2001 5:49:23 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: madrussian
madrussian, a few modifications to your comment:

That has been a consistent American position to push Russia/Israel/Macedonia/NorthernIreland/etc. into negotiations with a group of terrorists that aren't recognized internationally as any state entity.

Gee, what a startling success that has been. Not. maybe we ought to stop giving legitimacy to terrorists.

35 posted on 10/15/2001 6:30:11 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: Yehuda
I lucked out at the library down here. I reserved it a few days after 911. The book is #37 on Amazon best seller list. And it's about a lot more than Bin Laden. Bodansky has been tracking these extreme Islamics for since 1980 and the USSR invasion of Afghanistan. This invasion put Russian army a lot closer to Saudi and scared them to death of Russian conquest of the Mid East. So the Saudis contributed mightily ($$$) to defeat USSR in Afghanistan. 

The rest is history

36 posted on 10/15/2001 6:35:28 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Pericles
"ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US."
37 posted on 10/15/2001 6:58:56 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: Yehuda
Arafat is a piece of scum and it sucks to have to talk to him. But Israel has had to and will in the future. At least Bush says so.
39 posted on 10/15/2001 9:08:09 PM PDT by madrussian
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To: Republic of Texas
You are not the only one. Islam is a sworn enemy of the West and needs to be bloodied. They got away with too much under George Bush and Clinton. Its time to put them back in their place.

Even so, come Lord Jesus

40 posted on 10/15/2001 10:37:44 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration
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