To: RobbyS; nobdysfool; hopefulpilgrim
Scripture is tradition in its most concrete form. It seems to me that you have a different understanding of how this proceeds:
Catholics: JESUS -> (T)RADITION -> CHRISTIAN SCRIPTURES
Protestants: JESUS -> CHRISTIAN SCRIPTURES -> (t)RADITIONS
Catholics see scripture as a subset of the larger oral tradition. Protestants see scripture as complete in itself, and tradition as an unwarranted addition to scripture.
To: angelo
Catholics see scripture as a subset of the larger oral tradition. Protestants see scripture as complete in itself, and tradition as an unwarranted addition to scripture. About right. Of course, from my point of view, I see much of what they do is "add on." Revivalism is may not be a complete novelty--one thinks of certain aspects Montanism--but it sure in not consist with Puritanism and it kind of shades in the gnosticism that I see in the South Baptists, or at least the "moderate" branch of it.
To: angelo
Catholics see scripture as a subset of the larger oral tradition. Protestants see scripture as complete in itself, and tradition as an unwarranted addition to scripture.
I think it is important to recognize Protestants do accept Tradition. They just insist that this Tradition ended with the lives of the apostles. Protestants, and I, accuse the RCC of "inventing" tradition known only to the Church, ie. "Revealed Tradition".
To: angelo
Catholics see scripture as a subset of the larger oral tradition. Protestants see scripture as complete in itself, and tradition as an unwarranted addition to scripture.
Catholics see one Revelation: Christ. Sacred tradition and sacred scripture are two streams by which Christ continues to reveal himself. As I understand it, these two streams are not discrete, as you rightly imply: technically speaking, sacred scripture is the product of sacred tradition, which roughly can be understood as the living of the faith.
In the larger picture, each of sacred tradition, sacred scripture and espiscopal authority relies reciprocally on the other two:
Sacred scripture relies on the sacred tradition on which it is based;
Sacred tradition relies on the sacred scripture that attests it.
Sacred tradition relies on the episcopal authority that guarantees its authenticity;
Episcopal authority relies on the sacred tradition that supports its transmission.
Episcopal authority relies on the sacred scripture that attests it;
Sacred Scipture relies on the episcopal authority that guarantees its authenticity.
This reciprocal reliance means that each is indispensable to the other two, such that if you dispense with any one of them, you dispense with all three.
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