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not a visible, hierarchal church.

Jesus disagrees with you

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WHOA! A hit-and-run by the the vicar of Pope JP II, presently disguised as the vicar and spokesman for Jesus !! : )

Interesting, 'cos I could've sworn that He said that His kingdom is not of this world....and what you guys have going is definitely a kingdom rather than a church (Gk. "a called-out assembly"). Don't you claim that the pope has jurisdiction over all governments? Sounds like an earthly kingdom to me...NOTHING like the first century church...

I wonder how you explain the following,excerpted from the prayer Jesus Christ taught us to pray. "Thy kingdome come,Thy Will be done,on earth as it is in Heaven". I think it can be understood in several ways that conflict with your comment.And,in fact,it lends scriptural support to the Papal Bull that RobbyS. posted the other day and caused some big kerfuffle. Anyway interested in your take on it.