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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; Havoc; Steven
Havoc in post 316:

Mary is the mother of the physical form of Jesus. I have not argued that she is not the mother of Jesus. I have made the statement that she is not, as the implication of your statements would infer, the creator of God. And I stated that whether you intend to state her as the creator of God or not. I'm not letting such a blasphemous inferrance hang out there in the wind for others to abuse. If you have a problem with that, tough!

With absolutely no intention of addressing actual Catholic teaching, Havoc objects to "Mother of God" because of the "blasphemous inference" that is hanging there "for others to abuse." This is the basis given for rejecting what the Catholics hold as true. That ignorant people will misunderstand it.

Is this a valid principle that all of you non-Catholics would adhere to? Becky seems to be saying so:

But about the dumbasses listening. Why should we worry about them. Because God loves them just as he loves all of us dumbasses, you included.

I think this means that we should be careful of what we say, lest the ignorant misunderstand us. If this is the case, why, oh why, can I not get the point across that saying we are saved by "faith alone" is at least, if not more, prone to misunderstanding by the ignorant?

Why is only Catholic thought subjected to the "must be simple enough for the mind-numbingly ignorant to not possibly misunderstand"? Why am I called "difficult" when I use this very same, Havoc-inspired "if you have a problem with that, tough!" attitude to your own teachings?

(BTW, I wasn't personally calling any of you ignorant or "dumbass," just making the point about the mentality to whom we apparently must target all of our communication.)

SD

4,225 posted on 10/30/2001 10:07:45 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Calling Mary "Mother of God" by itself I have no problem with. Its when the prayer goes on to ask her to "pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death" is where it gets wierd for me. But we've tossed that around over and over.
4,234 posted on 10/30/2001 10:15:30 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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