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To: B-Chan
Is it necessary for me to remind you documents such as Persona Humana and Statement of Most Reverend Joseph A. Fiorenza are not the Catechism. In no way do they satisfy your "proof".

"You were in fact asking me to show where the Catechism teaches that "any practice of homosexuality outside of man-woman marriage is intrinsically evil and sinful". I did so."

Do words have any meaning to you? I repeat; there are only two instances where anything is called "intrinsically evil" in the Catechism:

1. Rape

2. Artificial Birth Control.

If you wish to refute my statement it is necessary to find your proof in the Catechism.

Why don't you just drop the subject? You know not wherof you speak.
31,159 posted on 02/28/2002 5:50:51 PM PST by OLD REGGIE
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To: OLD REGGIE
Is it necessary for me to remind you documents such as Persona Humana and Statement of Most Reverend Joseph A. Fiorenza are not the Catechism. In no way do they satisfy your "proof".

I'm afraid they do. Your contention was that the term "intrinsically disordered" did not represent the same idea as the term "intrinsically evil". I posted evidence from Church documents showing that these terms are in fact used interchangably in the context of discussion of the moral aspects of human sexuality. You have so far failed to post any evidence to counter mine; indeed, you have failed to support any of your positions evidentially, leaving the field to me. Therefore, I graciously accept your surrender.

Do words have any meaning to you? I repeat; there are only two instances where anything is called "intrinsically evil" in the Catechism...

The specific words "intrinsically evil" need not be used. Phrases like "intrinsically disordered", etc. are just other ways of expressing the same idea as the words "intrinsically evil", as you well know.

Why don't you just drop the subject? You know not wherof you speak.

My dear brother in Christ: dropping the subject is the last thing I intend to do. Allowing you to continue to spread your brand of well-intentioned but factually inaccurate and evidentially-unsupported anti-Catholic propaganda would be a disservice to the Church and a dereliction of my duty to defend the Faith. Instead, I will say a prayer during my Rosary this week especially for you, asking St. Joseph, Patron of the Universal Church, to intercede before the throne of his foster Son our Lord for your health, happiness, and better understanding of the one holy Catholic and apostolic Church.

God bless you.

B-chan

31,169 posted on 02/28/2002 7:09:51 PM PST by B-Chan
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To: OLD REGGIE
Did you expect a roll call? A council is, after all, a legislative body. I gather, however, there was no actual division of the House.

Give it up Reggie, you'll never get a straight answer from RobbyS.

31,202 posted on 03/01/2002 6:25:55 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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