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To: american colleen
And??? You are trying to find proof that Peter did not have primacy amongst the apostles. Peter was chosen to preach to the Gentiles and Samaria was Gentile, no? Who else should have gone? When you have say, a merger of companies and the CEO and his assistant are the ones chosen to go and do the negotiating with the other company, does it lessen the CEO’s authority?

"Houston we have a problem". You have it backward. Peter was chosen to preach to the Jews, Paul was chosen to preach to the Gentiles:

Galations 2:
7: but on the contrary, when they saw that I had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been entrusted with the gospel to the circumcised
8: (for he who worked through Peter for the mission to the circumcised worked through me also for the Gentiles),
9: and when they perceived the grace that was given to me, James and Cephas and John, who were reputed to be pillars, gave to me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised;

I guarantee you, from personal experience, the staff never sends the CEO any place. Never!
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This scenerio is exactly how the magisterium of the RCC works. There is dissention or perhaps false teaching (Acts 15:5), then there is much debate/discussion (Acts 15:6-7) within the magisterium, and then one speaks with authority – as Peter did (Acts 15:7).

And the Papal staff never sends the Pope anywhere. Never!
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Peter’s name occurs 195 times in the New Testament, while the rest of the Apostles together are mentioned 130 times, and the second most mentioned Apostle, St. John, is mentioned only 29 times. I believe that Peter was chosen by Jesus to feed his sheep and that Peter was given the keys – I don’t want to get into another discussion of this as the matter has been addressed countless times and none of us will change our belief, either way.

This is one of the, if not the, silliest possible agrument. "Word count" doesn't count for anything. Paul has more words than the other Apostles combined. So what? Peter was called "satan" by Jesus and he never used this language with any of the other apostles. So what?

Why don't you just get right down to brass tacks and say "because my Church tells me this is so"? You certainly aren't going to prove your case with your limited experience with Scripture.
31,048 posted on 02/28/2002 12:49:41 PM PST by OLD REGGIE
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To: OLD REGGIE; american colleen
I understood american colleen to be referring to Peter's visit to Cornelius' house.
31,051 posted on 02/28/2002 12:53:57 PM PST by eastsider
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To: OLD REGGIE
Why don't you just get right down to brass tacks and say "because my Church tells me this is so"? You certainly aren't going to prove your case with your limited experience with Scripture.

Never said I was a biblical scholar - this rebuttal stuff is all new to me, I'm doing my best. I believe it yes, because I read lots of material (including the Bible) and the I believe the Tradition of the Catholic Church; so far you haven't been able to show me a better tradition.

You are wrong about not sending the CEO anywhere. I remember when I worked for one of the Big 8 accounting firms - they were all starting to merge with one another and guess who used to leave the office for merger meetings??? Yes, the CEO ... It was a bad analogy anyway, I just wanted to get your post answered and done with.

31,104 posted on 02/28/2002 1:59:11 PM PST by american colleen
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