The event is also recorded in Acts 15:1-2 which took place when they were in Antioch (Acts 14:26-27). As a matter of fact it was that episode that precipitated the Jerusalem Council.
I dont believe that the event in Galatians (2:11) precipated the Jerusalem Council , but that is a matter for which Ill leave to the bible scholars. I guess we disagree on timing here. I do think it odd that you hang so much on Paul withstanding Peter to the face, when Paul himself lived like a Jew because he did not want to offend the Jews detailed quite a few times in Acts, after the Council of Jerusalem.
There are plenty of Christians that believe they have to add something to the Salvation that is complete in Christ. If you are involved in keeping the Law in order for you to not lose your Salvation, then you are adding to Christs work. If you believe that it is Christ that initially provides the Salvation, but it is kept, or maintained, by works then you have a works-salvation. It is based on you and not Christ.
I do not believe you have to add something to Christs Sacrifice his Sacrifice is complete and perfect. We are given it through Grace, working through faith. We can lose it through sin and not being repentant of our sins, as outlined in the Bible. I think Adam and Eve are the best example of this they knew God personally and yet, through temptation and then sin, lost their perfect faith in Him. I believe you need to be sorry for your sins - is that adding to Christ's perfect sacrifice on the cross?
What happens if YOU dont keep the Sacraments? What happens if YOU dont attend Mass, what happens if YOU dont go to confession, what happens if YOU dont partake of the Eucharist, what happens if YOU dont get baptized, etc.? If your Salvation is dependent upon YOU performing these actions, then your Salvation is dependent upon YOU. The Salvation that I believe in is dependent upon Christ alone.
Since I belive the sacraments were instituted by Christ himself, I believe they are necessary in the life of a Christian. Through the sacraments we grow in the life of grace, it is also the sacraments that provide us with a means of restoring the life of God's friendship that we may have lost through sin.
Where does Paul say that we must keep the 10 Commandments in order to go to Heaven? I dont think you can find it, because it is not there.
What about The Rich Young Man in Matthew 19:16-30 never mind St. Paul, Jesus spoke about keeping the commandments.
me: That certainly is true except I think following the law is more than beneficial. God gave us a concience and free will for some reason... if we do not exercise it/them according to his will, I believe we can lose salvation.
you: Again, that makes Salvation dependent upon YOU, and YOUR actions. Jesus provided a better Salvation than that.
He provided a perfect salvation. We can either accept it, or not. Why would he give us free will? Free will allows us to either accept Him or not, persevere, or not.
Im sure you did just great.
I dont believe that the event in Galatians (2:11) precipated the Jerusalem Council , but that is a matter for which Ill leave to the bible scholars. I guess we disagree on timing here. I do think it odd that you hang so much on Paul withstanding Peter to the face, when Paul himself lived like a Jew because he did not want to offend the Jews detailed quite a few times in Acts, after the Council of Jerusalem.
I find it odd that you can so easily discount the Paul and Peter episode.
I do not believe you have to add something to Christs Sacrifice his Sacrifice is complete and perfect. We are given it through Grace, working through faith. We can lose it through sin and not being repentant of our sins, as outlined in the Bible. I think Adam and Eve are the best example of this they knew God personally and yet, through temptation and then sin, lost their perfect faith in Him. I believe you need to be sorry for your sins - is that adding to Christ's perfect sacrifice on the cross?
If you can lose your part of Christs complete and perfect Sacrifice, then it was neither. Nobody is saying that you shouldnt be sorry and repentant for your sins. We are saying that those sins that occur after you have believed on Christ as your Savior do not jeopardize your place in Heaven.
ksen: What happens if YOU dont keep the Sacraments? What happens if YOU dont attend Mass, what happens if YOU dont go to confession, what happens if YOU dont partake of the Eucharist, what happens if YOU dont get baptized, etc.? If your Salvation is dependent upon YOU performing these actions, then your Salvation is dependent upon YOU. The Salvation that I believe in is dependent upon Christ alone.
american_colleen: Since I belive the sacraments were instituted by Christ himself, I believe they are necessary in the life of a Christian. Through the sacraments we grow in the life of grace, it is also the sacraments that provide us with a means of restoring the life of God's friendship that we may have lost through sin.
That is all wonderful, but you did not answer my question. What happens to you if YOU dont keep the Sacraments, as listed above.
What about The Rich Young Man in Matthew 19:16-30 never mind St. Paul, Jesus spoke about keeping the commandments.
What about the Rich Young Man? He asked Jesus what good thing that HE COULD DO in order to get eternal life. Jesus gave him a list, notice the list only contained the last 6 commandments. The man said he did all of that. Jesus did not rebuke him, so I have to assume that the man told the truth. Jesus discerned where the mans heart truly was, with his money, and demanded he part with it in order to inherit eternal life. The man left, why? because his money was his god, not the God of Israel.
He provided a perfect salvation. We can either accept it, or not. Why would he give us free will? Free will allows us to either accept Him or not, persevere, or not.
I agree with you in this last part. I just dont agree with the conclusions you draw.
Who keeps your home in Heaven secure? God? Or you through your own performance/obedience?
I await your response, should you feel like continuing.
-ksen