[Isaiah_66_2]

What your main problem is is that you are taking thse events and trying to say something about the church and how she has acted throughout history.

Oh no, dave, the events speak for themselves, about how the papist church has acted consistently throughout history.
Now, you can continue to deny the consistent pattern of actions throughout history by the papist church, but the history stands for itself.

[SoothingDave]

Oh no, dave, the events speak for themselves, about how the papist church has acted consistently throughout history. Now, you can continue to deny the consistent pattern of actions throughout history by the papist church, but the history stands for itself.

What events? What history? You are all over the place. You try to take events happening in the 20th Century and make a seeeping statement about the actions of the Church for Millennia. This is not rational.

Please provide some evidence of your theory, or desist.

SD

[RobbyS]

Oh but events don't speak for themselves. It takes historicans to give them voice, and historians, like the rest of us, arrange, include, exclude events to fit their prejudices. We love the Church, warts and all. You hate her and see only the warts.