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To: SoothingDave
Is that the word for "Havoc gets to act superior and throw mud at the Catholics cause he doesn't understand concepts like "chastity" or what "intrinsically evil" means?"

Havoc isn't worried about "acting superior" or throwing mud. Havoc is interested in what is right and Just. Havoc knows what chastity and evil mean. Havoc also knows what the phrase "Homosexuality is a sin" means. Havoc is amazed that the RCC can't say that instead of issuing three paragraphs of stuff that does not commit to that position - which is the same as that of scripture (ie Homosexuality is a sin.) Havoc is amazed that the RCC can't commit to calling a sin for what it is 100% and without reservation.

You guys completely deny any spiritual aspect, as eastrider's comment shows - not even discerning or perhaps understanding a spiritual element - who knows. He pokes fun at a spiritual element - which is worst yet. But it tells me more about who you guys are.

30,802 posted on 02/28/2002 6:39:32 AM PST by Havoc
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To: Havoc
Havoc isn't worried about "acting superior" or throwing mud. Havoc is interested in what is right and Just. Havoc knows what chastity and evil mean. Havoc also knows what the phrase "Homosexuality is a sin" means. Havoc is amazed that the RCC can't say that instead of issuing three paragraphs of stuff that does not commit to that position - which is the same as that of scripture (ie Homosexuality is a sin.) Havoc is amazed that the RCC can't commit to calling a sin for what it is 100% and without reservation.

OK. Then define chastity. Then explain how something can be intrinsically evil without it being a sin.

SD

30,806 posted on 02/28/2002 6:43:49 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Havoc
Havoc is amazed that the RCC can't say that instead of issuing three paragraphs of stuff that does not commit to that position - which is the same as that of scripture
(ie Homosexuality is a sin.) Havoc is amazed that the RCC can't commit to calling a sin for what it is 100% and without reservation.

Chastity and homosexuality

2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered." They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
 

Source:  The Catechism of the Catholic Church, Part 3, Section 2, Chapter 2, Article 6

Seems unambiguous to me. I expect a retraction and apology.

30,846 posted on 02/28/2002 7:34:31 AM PST by B-Chan
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