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Ok, al. Here goes. If you say I can lose my salvation through my actions, than that implies that I can gain it back by getting back in grace with God, which leads to works. Now if I can get back into grace with God, then that means Christ's death on the Cross was not sufficient enough to save me, since through my actions i can nullify His work, and I can "achieve" His work on the Cross by regaining grace with God. The passage in Hebrews is perfect because it says, that if I fall away (which is impossible), then I could never be saved again, because it would be impossible for Christ to die again on the Cross for my sins. So by saying you lose your salvation by falling out of grace and then regaining grace through your actions, you are in essence saying Christ's work was insufficient to save you in the first place, so why have Him die again, if that is going to be insufficient as well.

So, when we sin, we are losing communion with God. There is a relationship issue. We cannot come before God, because we have unconfessed sin in our lives. So we need to seek forgiveness to restore that relationship with God. Does that make sense?

JM

Ok, al. Here goes. If you say I can lose my salvation through my actions, than that implies that I can gain it back by getting back in grace with God, which leads to works.

Not really. Confession and repentance, perhaps.

Now if I can get back into grace with God, then that means Christ's death on the Cross was not sufficient enough to save me, since through my actions i can nullify His work,

Not exactly. Christ's death and resurrection is our saving grace, but we are still called to confess and repent. If our actions have no outcome on our salvation, then why are we called to do that?

and I can "achieve" His work on the Cross by regaining grace with God. The passage in Hebrews is perfect because it says, that if I fall away (which is impossible), then I could never be saved again, because it would be impossible for Christ to die again on the Cross for my sins.

I know the passage you're talking about, but could you give the chapter/verses? Thanks.

So by saying you lose your salvation by falling out of grace and then regaining grace through your actions, you are in essence saying Christ's work was insufficient to save you in the first place, so why have Him die again, if that is going to be insufficient as well.

I don't think that's what I'm saying. Perhaps a study on Hebrews is in order. I'll get back to you on this.

So, when we sin, we are losing communion with God. There is a relationship issue. We cannot come before God, because we have unconfessed sin in our lives. So we need to seek forgiveness to restore that relationship with God. Does that make sense?

Absolutely.

If you say I can lose my salvation through my actions, than that implies that I can gain it back by getting back in grace with God, which leads to works.

Nothing like starting your argument off on a non sequitur.

One more time. We can lose our salvation by refusing it, by our actions. We can re-gain it by repenting and asking for God's forgiveness. That's it. No works.