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To: Havoc
The beef comes in when you start making dumb statements like the one's I pointed out before. Eat, fill the plate with poison and then want everyone to believe you've been poisoned because there is poison on the plate after you eat. Mary having children after the Birth of Jesus in no way made her less of a virgin before Jesus' conception nor does it affect the birth of Jesus in any way. Your Doctrine is moronic to say the least, yet it is high minded 'reason' and 'logic' that comes up with such moronicisms. Such people likely coined the phrase, "I are smart" and were the proximate model of the Mortimer Schnerd character.

Can't you just feel the love in this room?

Havoc, nobody, including me, has said that Mary is a perpetual virgin because if she wasn't it would affect the circumstance of Jesus' birth. In fact, I answered a direct question about this only two days ago. You are once again battling a figment of your imagination.

I pray that some day you acquire actual knowledge about the Catholic Church that you always rail against.

SD

2,649 posted on 10/25/2001 6:20:47 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Iowegian
If vmatt was a Catholic we could tell him he's wrong because a Catholic will listen to the Church over what the "Holy Spirit" told him.

The only church that vmatt ever said he was a part of was, guess what, the RC church and from his posts he hates all authority and never showed any signs that he had the slightest idea what sola scriptura even meant, let alone used it as a rule of faith. He is an anarchist, that is not, despite your straw man attempts, what sola scriptura teaches.

He abandoned Catholicisim. That means he does notabide by its authority. That was my point. Stay tuned and I will reveal to you exactly why I fault Sola Scriptura for this.

SD

2,650 posted on 10/25/2001 6:22:44 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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