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To: ksen
Don't you think that it is kind of unfair to condemn those who rely on Scripture as their only authority, by using the most far out example to say that is where everyone who uses Scripture alone will wind up?

It would be unfair if I said that. But I didn't. I said that there is nothing in the concept of Sola Scriptura to stop this guy from thinking that there are two gods IF that is what the "Holy Spirit" tells him in his private reading.

If you want to hold your personal understanding of what Scripture means, as helped along by the HS, as the final authority then you have to accept what happens to those who are confused.

Has no one in the 1,700-year history of the Catholic Church ever taken your traditions out of context (proof-texting them, if you will) to come up with some unorthodox ideas?

Of course. And we teach that people who claim an understanding which does not align with the teaching of the Church are wrong. Period. We don't claim that each person, with the help of the "Holy Spirit" is to be his own judge.

SD

2,487 posted on 10/24/2001 10:37:52 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
It would be unfair if I said that. But I didn't.

Then I am sorry for implying a meaning that you never intended.

I said that there is nothing in the concept of Sola Scriptura to stop this guy from thinking that there are two gods IF that is what the "Holy Spirit" tells him in his private reading.

But there is, it is called context. If you think a particular portion of Scripture says something that clearly contradicts another portion, than your understanding is wrong.

If you want to hold your personal understanding of what Scripture means, as helped along by the HS, as the final authority then you have to accept what happens to those who are confused.

I don't hold my personal understanding as authoritative. I hold Scripture as authoritative. If my understanding conflicts with Scripture than I need to rethink my understanding.

Has no one in the 1,700-year history of the Catholic Church ever taken your traditions out of context (proof-texting them, if you will) to come up with some unorthodox ideas?

Of course. And we teach that people who claim an understanding which does not align with the teaching of the Church are wrong. Period. We don't claim that each person, with the help of the "Holy Spirit" is to be his own judge.

Any of the Sola Scriptura people that I know would point out that the "Two Gods" doctrine is clearly wrong. Period.

By your own admission people have taken Catholic Tradition out of context. Does that make you see your Tradition as suspect, and want to throw the whole thing out? Well, just because some people might take Scripture out of context and twist it does not make me want to throw out Sola Scriptura as my approach to doctrine.

-ksen

2,497 posted on 10/24/2001 11:17:08 AM PDT by ksen
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