SoothingDave: Yes, sir. If salvation is based upon faith, and faith requires obedience, then we can surely fall out of faith by our disobedience.
Sorry to intrude on your discussion, but I would like to ask a question to SD.
Here is an excerpt from Hebrews 6:
"[1]Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, [2]of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and ofeternal judgement. [3]And this will we do, if God permit. [4]For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, [5]and have tasted the good work of God, and the powers of the world to come, [6]if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame." - He 6:1-6
This passage says that if it were possible to fall away(lose your salvation) then the only way to "be saved" again is to crucify Jesus again. Since that isn't going to happen, how could one possibly be right with God again?
-ksen
Is that from the KJV? The RSV says something different.
4 For it is impossible to restore again to repentance those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit,
5 and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come,
6 if they then commit apostasy, since they crucify the Son of God on their own account and hold him up to contempt.
This says that those who commit apostasy crucify him again and hold him in contempt. Not that they would need to crucify Him again to gain forgiveness.
The point here is that once you are filled with the Spirit and taste the goodness, apostasy is really, really bad.
SD
No it doesn't.