The Neverending Story (The New Christian Chronicles)

Southern Baptists ending talks with Catholic Church ^ | 3/24/01 | AP

[malakhi]

The Neverending Story
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[eastsider]

This is assuming that the "natives" spoke Latin and not some corrupted mishmash of developing what we now call French.

Hmmm. Sounds more like a mouse than a keyboard.

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Time for you to take a chill pill, or maybe a suppository.

See post #30879 :)

BigMack

[IMRight]

Don't get me wrong, there are lots of Baptists, the "easy believism", liberal Mr. Jimmah Cartah types who are anathema as well.

I didn't know you guys were allowed to pronounce anathemas. :)

What does the evil behavior of he-who-shall-not-be-named say about the Baptist faith? I'll leave Carter off the list since I think he isn't so bad (lousy president, pretty good guy). Or how about the Hildabeast? What does her sinfullness say about the Baptists?

[OLD REGGIE]

Seems unambiguous to me. I expect a retraction and apology.

Good luck to you. What chance do you think you have to force the RCC to retract and/or apologize the "smoke words" used to address homosexuality and incest. After all "sin" is much too complicated a concept in this context. :>

BTW. The word "sin" occurs more than 500 times in the Catechism but not once in reference to incest or homosexuality. Wonder why?

[Isaiah_66_2]

Any practice of homosexuality, pedophilia, or other non-chaste sexuality---whether by priests, Protestant ministers, rabbis, imans, Buddhists, Hindus, Shinto, animist, Trekkies, or any other human beings----is intrinsically evil and sinful.

Allow me to make a point of clarification---I am speaking of the "practice" of that "evil and sin" as in the veing of Scripture, which is the ongoing, continuous, habitual practice without benefit of true repentance, which requires the turning from that sin, and to obedience to God, not the kind of "repentance" of simply "being sorry" for one's continuous, ongoing, habuitual practice of that sin.

Do you agree?

Do you agree with 1 John 1:6, If we say that we have fellowship with Him and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.?

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Yesterday was "Senior Day" and we have special privileges.

I got my app for AARP card the other day, I'll be 50 in may, is it worth anything Reggie or should I throw it in the trash?

BigMack

[IMRight]

BTW. The word "sin" occurs more than 500 times in the Catechism but not once in reference to incest or homosexuality. Wonder why?

Wait! The RCC says incest isn't a sin? Where's the exit!!!???

Oh wait.... " 2356 Rape is the forcible violation of the sexual intimacy of another person. It does injury to justice and charity. Rape deeply wounds the respect, freedom, and physical and moral integrity to which every person has a right. It causes grave damage that can mark the victim for life. It is always an intrinsically evil act. Graver still is the rape of children committed by parents (incest) or those responsible for the education of the children entrusted to them."

Thank goodness, I can stay.

Can't seem to find anything at all about incest being a sin on those Unitarian sites you posted. Got any more I can look through?

[Isaiah_66_2]

How about getting the RCC to retract and apologize for all the anathemas still in place against Protestants in the canons of the Council of Trent? They will never do it, "infallibility" won't allow it.

I'm curious as to how one pope, could condemn Jan Hus as a heretic, for preaching the same justification as Scripture does, and Martin Luther did several centuries later, and preaching against the corruption and perversions in the RC clergy, just as the Reformers did centuries later, and other Reformers before Hus, and had Jan Hus hanged, burning his dead body at the stake, then later digging up his buried bones to burn him again----but then another pope has Jan Hus beautified as a "saint"---which was was right? Was Jan Hus a heretic or a saint?

[eastsider]

Hui! Excellent post.

[IMRight]

I got my app for AARP card the other day

They are probably the most powerfull lobby in congress. Join up to make sure that religious conservatives have a say in their policy debates.

[SoothingDave]

However, since you seem to have your head so far in the sand, as to not be aware of some of the atrocities, perversions and evil committed by the popes and papist clery through the centuries, then over the next couple of weeks, I'll post more than a few.

Please do whatever you feel is necessary to justify your abandoning of the True Faith.

BTW, could you answer what "intrinsically evil" means and how something that is such is not a sin? And what about "chastity"?

Thank you.

Tell me something dave---why has it been Rome's policy to simply move pedophiles and other sexual perverts who are clerics from one parish to another?

EARTH TO ISAIAH_66_2! This is the third freaking time I have said this! It was wrong. I don't think you can show it was "Rome's" policy, but when it was the policy in any of the local Churches, it is because of liberalism, the replacement of a true Catholic understanding of sin with psychobabble. On this we agree!

EARTH TO ISAIAH! ARE WE COMING IN?

SD

[SoothingDave]

The word "sin" occurs more than 500 times in the Catechism but not once in reference to incest or homosexuality. Wonder why?

Exactly what the #@($*@) do you think "intrinsically evil" is? Can one commit acts that are "intrinsically evil" and not commit a sin? Why does it not surprise me that you too are acting obtuse about this?

SD

[Isaiah_66_2]

You don't think Jimmah Cartah isn't so bad, huh?

Apparently you know nothing of his theology.

He is pro-ordaining homosexual ministers, pro-homosexual marriages, pro-abortion, he teaches universalism, he teaches another gospel, which is, all religions worship the same god, but use different names.

Mr. Jimmah Cartah is an abomination and has caused his group of liberals to leave the Southern Baptist Convention to the glee of that Convention.

[Havoc]

You guys evidently have fallen for Daves word swap game. See #30893.

[SoothingDave]

Who many popes would you say were homosexual, non-chaste queers, or were bi-sexual, non-chaste, that is? How many popes would you say father bastard kids? Of course, unchaste doesn't apply to that one, to fathered bastard kids implies dirrectly that the popes who fathered bastard kids were not chaste, so you may disregard the question of "chastity" in that case.

What does it matter? Or do you think infallibility is impeccability? You wouldn't be the first to be confused.

What is your definition of chastity? Would it confuse you to no end to know that my wife and I have been chaste, though we recently welcomed a baby? Is my wife being pregnant a sign that we have not been chaste?

SD

[SoothingDave]

Yes, I understand you love the warts of the papist church---that is the problem---you love the warts, that are evil. God says to hate evil---you say---love it.

This statement of yours is beneath contempt. Retract it at once or be shunned.

We don't accuse you of loving sin, none of us has made a statement that could mean that we do. Yet you "witness" to the Truth of Christ by telling lies about others.

SD

[IMRight]

He is pro-ordaining homosexual ministers, pro-homosexual marriages, pro-abortion, he teaches universalism, he teaches another gospel, which is, all religions worship the same god, but use different names

I retract my previous support (taking your word for it that he favors these positions). The guy does build nice houses for poor people though....

[OLD REGGIE]

I invited you to define "chastity" and to explain how something that is "intrinsically evil" is not a sin. You have not.

How many times does the word "sin" occur in the Catechism?

[Havoc]

Exactly what the #@($*@) do you think "intrinsically evil" is? Can one commit acts that are "intrinsically evil" and not commit a sin? Why does it not surprise me that you too are acting obtuse about this? SD

Calm yourself, Dave. Can you please tell us where the words "intrinsically evil" appear in the quotations regarding homosexuality? You may need to see my prior post to you on this question.

[IMRight]

Not me. I sent you a quote that refutes what you said. I had another site from the pro homo side of the argument who sounded just like you (in the way he attacked the RCC, not on the homo issue) and went to great length quoting how evil the church thought homos were (they obviously don't think that the RCC is letting them get away with their "lifestyle"). I couldn't bring myself to post it though because it was making me puke and I didn't want to be responsible for that post being on this thread.