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Atta's Rage Rooted in Islam's Misogyny
FrontPageMagazine ^ | 10/12/01 | Jamie Glazov

Posted on 10/12/2001 10:56:03 PM PDT by ppaul

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To: ThirstyMan
It goes WAY back, to the originator who made up the rules to suit his lusts.
21 posted on 10/13/2001 1:31:47 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: ppaul
What a bunch of freeks....
22 posted on 10/13/2001 1:35:21 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: lentulusgracchus
I could not agree with you more but eventually we are going to have to call a spade; a spade.
23 posted on 10/13/2001 1:38:40 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: ppaul
"The confusion in which Middle Eastern boys grow up, therefore, is a given. With all kinds of siblings born of different women -- who obviously weren't good enough to be cherished alone -- the boys get their first taste of misogyny and, therefore, self-hate (since they internalize the notion that their own mothers were valueless)."

Forgive me for sounding "touchy feely" for a moment. Consider this... Osama bin Laden was one of 53 children, the son of a polygamist.

How much could he have been loved by his father?

The link between dysfunctional father/son relationships and criminal, sociopathic behavior, is well documented. We're seeing now some of the bitter fruit harvested from a culture sewn with the seeds of polygamy and misogyny.

In what other culture are young men seduced by the demonic promise of eternal carnality with 72 virgins, or even young boys, in the afterlife?

In what other culture do adults raise their children to be suicidal bomb-fodder. Or send them out as bait, to hurl stones at soldiers in the hope of drawing return fire, and hence the sympathy of Western News audiences?

What other culture suckles such an evil, cold-blooded brood?

What other culture disdains its children so?

Only Islam.

24 posted on 10/13/2001 2:02:18 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: ppaul
Sounds to me like thes guys are a job for........The mighty ladies from NOW!

The girls will square 'em away!

Regards,

25 posted on 10/13/2001 4:40:17 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine
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To: eclectic
President Bush calling Islam "beautiful and peaceful" religion is either incredibly naive or incredibly cunning

I think he's just accepting that some Muslims are not following their Koran completely and are good people who can live with infidels without killing them. I don't think anyone can really look at whats going on in Indonesia, the Sudan, Nigeria, India, Israel, and now the USA and believe the religion itself is very beautiful. You could probably do some heavy editing of the Koran and make it a much thinner but nice enough book.

26 posted on 10/13/2001 6:40:58 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: ppaul
Since Islam is mysoginist (muslim nations do not make it an option to wear the veil unlike Jews or Christians), then we are fighting Islam.
27 posted on 10/13/2001 6:42:56 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Yes, on one level it's all a matter of perception.

The illusory nature of the maya is not some hypothetical figment of someone's imagination. It is true.

The maya is an illusion, but, paradoxically, it is also reality. And we must function in it.

In fact, we can and do function of many different levels of reality at the same time, all of the time. And these levels are not isolated, one from another; they flow together, more like spectra.

On one level everything is paradoxical.

On one level, it's all a matter of probabilities.

I'll bet my eternal soul that these screwed-up guys are consumed by evil and will find no reward for their actions. In fact that bit about paradise and 72 virgins is a bad joke on them.

We will all face the judgment of God. That day will come. In fact, paradoxically, that day will come, and that day is already here. (Time is an illusion also. But don't throw away your watch; this is another paradox.)

As a Christian, I know that these terrorists are infidels who are guilty of terrible sin.

As a member of the human race, I know that they are disgusting, reprehensible, screwed-up loosers and that the world will be a better place when they are all dead. There is no excuse for their actions. They must be hunted down and killed or rendered powerless. And civilized people the world over must never forget the importance of eternal vigilance.

28 posted on 10/13/2001 6:48:29 AM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: eclectic
What did you make of Bush's 2 references to "women of cover?" I had never heard the term before.

If the misogyny is the reason for the "covering" of women, why should we respect that "covering?" Bush was probably making an effort to communicate with American Muslims sympathetically but theres an essential dishonesty to view it as just another kind of tradition if it is in reality the root of this evil.

29 posted on 10/13/2001 6:57:19 AM PDT by karth
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To: karth
...but theres an essential dishonesty to view it as just another kind of tradition if it is in reality the root of this evil.

Then we are really into a religious war, which would rub Americans the wrong way. How else can it be described though?

30 posted on 10/13/2001 7:20:35 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: Travis McGee
Good examination of the dysfunctional sexual aspects of Islam.
31 posted on 10/13/2001 7:46:45 AM PDT by Lent
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To: ThirstyMan; karth
I think Bush is doing a good job of tap-dancing around the religious angle in this particular respect.
32 posted on 10/13/2001 8:00:47 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Travis McGee
bump.
34 posted on 10/13/2001 8:41:23 AM PDT by patent
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To: ppaul
Back when I was in college (when Wal Mart was open 9am-9pm, monday through saturday only-just for perspective) I checked out a book from the CMSU library on images of women in the world's religions. The section on Islam included a quote that is seared in my memory. As it's been too long, I do not have a title or author, nor can I recall the name of the Islamic philosopher to whom the quote is credited . But here's the "clean" version:

"Women are a form of life between humanity and beasts.They are not fully human, as are men. They come closest to attaining human status in two situations : When they are pregnant with a male fetus, and when they are on their backs, with a portion of the male anatomy within their body."

I am not making up this quote to justify my hatred of Islam. It was reading that which led to my hatred of this religion. Neither Christianity nor Judaism comes close to Islam in the misogyny stakes. Even St Jerome and those who think like him never denied that women are human and possessed of an immortal soul (the belief that the Catholic church came within one vote of ruling women soulless at some synod is a canard or 'medieval urban legend'.)

35 posted on 10/13/2001 8:45:30 AM PDT by kaylar
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
I think Bush is doing a good job of tap-dancing around the religious angle in this particular respect.

I agree. The challenge is to promote the good in the Muslim faith and isolate the extremism. That the violence, murder and selfish carnality is found in the very center of their faith seems hard to deny. That makes the term "moderate Arab" seem like a synonym for "compromising Arab". This is a very tricky one and Bush has done well as a politician.

36 posted on 10/13/2001 9:13:35 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: ppaul
He also instructed that: "He who washes my body around my genitals should wear gloves so that I am not touched there."

Where does this guy get off thinking he can dictate what happens to his body after the WTC war crime? If he hates pigs and women so much why don't we arrage for both of them to come to his grave and funeral in force? It just may prevent others from following in his infidel footsteps.

37 posted on 10/13/2001 9:19:36 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: eclectic
incredibly cunning

I would make the choices eithor "stupid" or "manipulative"

38 posted on 10/13/2001 9:23:35 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Reilly
America's pathologies are not yet institutionalized by a state religion. There's a difference.
39 posted on 10/13/2001 11:00:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: kaylar; Reilly; Manny Festo; Lent; patent; FITZ
Kaylar, I'd love to find that quote. It is damning.
40 posted on 10/13/2001 11:03:17 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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