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To: Hugh Akston

"... one of the lessons learned from the Buchanan campaign of 2000."

And a mean lesson that was too, Hugh. Certainly what you say about "fighting the war on the turf of the collectivists, the socialists, the communists, the Democrats, and their minions in the upper echelons of big labor" is not a place one wants to be perceived as being - for conservatives.

I'm most thankful for your thoughts, particularly the part about "another way to drive the point home and sell it to the voters." In addition, I'm painfully aware of the problem you cite in that many Americans who apply for the jobs are simply unqualified - and want more money than temporary H-1B employee will gladly take.

My problem isn't so much with smaller companies that must compete with greater intensity than the behemoth corporations like Hewlett Packard (the example pointed to by author of the email.) My mega-corp-employer has laid off the experienced and hired lower priced H-1B in place of greater ability. That ‘plays' as bald-faced greed - and sheer stupidity - but hides more.

Next week, I was told, I'll be offered for the fifth time a buy-out, two years of full pay - if I'll just go away (I won't.) Yet, the company has a severe shortage of my expertise - filling that shortage with far less capable H-1B hires, while studiously ignoring several Americans who have repeatedly applied and are of top caliber, experienced in the sciences needed. This again, appears as sheer greed and stupidity. But it is much, much more than that.

These corporations are led by wholly incompetent CEO's and boards (business wise) that are noted for links to far-left organizations and their activities are openly destructive to the corporations - and successfully so. (As their means covered a ‘boom' period.)

The problem you point to is how to call a spade a spade without hurting the cause of conservatism and fair and competent business interests. We are watching a nation being destroyed from within by corporate socialists - while their pals in government write law to assist in their efforts.

I agree with you. What the GOP has to do is come up with better terms to describe the problems we've outlined here - and tell it like it really is. At the same time however, I would like to see the GOP attract more Democrats and union members, while making life easier for the smaller businessman like myself and the mid-sized companies that are having a hard time. The solution isn't importation of labor - it is proper education and training - and exposure of not only greed (real,) but purposed destruction of successful major corporations.

All too well I remember the great schools within these corporate giants - that were destroyed, and eventually virtually eliminated. Now they complain they can't find qualified? No - sorry. That doesn't wash. They did want less expense, and capitalized on it, but they also wanted an excuse. Meanwhile the American worker is paying for their folly, and missing the bottom line intent and purposed means to an end.

I think some help may be coming, but not near enough of it - Congress and the President seem almost oblivious. There are promising questions over the visa issue - but we'd better keep a sharp eye on what Congress actually does - while we view with scepticism what they say. In addition, we have to begin exposing more of corporate stupidity (where it exists) - as well as what I believe is purposed subversion, that has led to excuses which cover up the socialist-means used to undermine our society and its productive might.

Thanks much for your feedback, Hugh. It was the best of the bunch! 8^)

35 posted on 10/13/2001 7:47:41 AM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.; Hugh Akston
Good morning!

Hugh, thank you for saving me the time it would take to type out everything that you said, I couldn't agree with you more.

Ron, when I read words like "greedy corporations" and have these corporations blamed for every ill found in America, the hairs on the back of my neck begin to rise, it sounds so familiar.

Greed built the American economy, the extraction of greed and the elimination of the ability of individuals to amass personal wealth is what makes communism, as a political system, an economic failure.

Corporations answer to investors, ordinary people who wish to participate in the corporate dream of growth through aggressive expansion, and these investors walk away from the corporation if it fails to meet their requirements for a return on their investment.

I believe that the whole H-1B visa program is about to slow itself way down as a result of the combined impact of the war, and the economic downturn we are currently experiencing. US employers will do the right thing in the face of a recession, they will endeavor to put America back to work, not for any other reason than greed; unemployed Americans cannot purchase the products that these corporations "peddle".

If I remember correctly, prior to the current economic downturn, the US had an unemployment rate of less than 4%, that fact, coupled with the information that US firms heavily recruited overseas for trained help during the boom, tells me that damned near everyone who could and was willing to work, was working. There will always be a certain percentage who, for one reason or another, will not work.

I agree with Hugh 100% on the dangers of using terminology that can be easily construed as socialist when speaking of American business.

That's my rant, not as well thought out as Hugh's, and not as eloquent, but hey! it's a second language to me.

Luis

36 posted on 10/13/2001 8:26:12 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Ron C.
We are watching a nation being destroyed from within by corporate socialists - while their pals in government write law to assist in their efforts.
The problem in a nutshell, made worse by the fact that most people immediately put socialists and communists out of their mind when they think about corporations, since the presumption is that corporations and those of that mindset are adversaries.

Before we can win this battle, we have to clear this ground, and get people to see that corporations can be controlled by adversaries to our way of life, and have people start using due diligence in this regard. If we win the information battle here, and get people to see what is happening, we won't even need to change the laws. The companies that are advancing the subversive causes will lose their business IF we figure out how to get people to see, and when they lose their business they lose their money and their power.

37 posted on 10/13/2001 8:41:38 AM PDT by Hugh Akston
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