[ignatz_q]

See, just as our friend kd5cts argued against the knee-jerk use of the word oppression on the part of the left, I have to take some exception to the use of the word victimology here. I think our fellow conservatives often write off any grievance on the part of a group like women as victimology, without really looking at the facts in a particular instance.

In the case of fundamentalist religions oppressing women, I'll certainly agree that not everyone who says they are being oppressed are. But in the case of someone who has been unjustly burdened because of their sex, and who because of their sex has no redress through the community, I think "victimology" is misapplied.

Of course, we're talking generalities here. I imagine we might find more common ground over specific instances.

Incidentally, Utah Girl, I want to say thanks. It's getting rarer and rarer on this board to find someone willing to discuss things instead of just using the forum as an excuse to scream.

[Utah Girl]

I think we are talking too generally here. But it has been good talking to you too.