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To: pegleg
No Protestant Church can claim this.

Uh...sure we can. And we have just as much right as the Catholics. The fact that you claim that and then point to Protestants as "begun by humans" shows your foundation for belief. Nothing more, nothing less.

They are founded by men, or women, based on their unique understanding of scripture interpretation.

And that makes us different from you How, exactly?

453 posted on 10/15/2001 6:17:10 AM PDT by the808bass
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To: al_c
FR wouldn't let me address this to "ALL" or "Everyone," so I just put my name in the recipient box.

Good morning, everbody. Boy, it's sure nice to be back at work so I can relax! ;o) Also, I haven't been able to get a solid connection to the web at home ... not sure why, though.

Monday, October 15, 2001
Saint Teresa of Avila, virgin and doctor - Memorial
First Reading:
Responsorial Psalm:
Gospel:
Romans 1:1-7 or Romans 8:22-27
Psalms 98:1-4
Luke 11:29-32

Before prayer, endeavor to realize whose Presence you are approaching, and to whom you are about to speak. We can never fully understand how we ought to behave towards God, before whom the angels tremble.

 --St. Teresa of Avila

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From wau.org ...

This is an evil generation that seeks a sign.
(Luke 11:29)

Many people saw the signs and wonders that Jesus performed. They were undeniable--healings, exorcisms, a multiplication of food. Why then did they ask for more signs? Theirs was a search not for signs but for meaning. Though they had seen the miraculous, they missed the message conveyed in them: Jesus Christ is Lord.

Reading Jesus' words, we may begin to wonder whether we should even bother trying to be a "sign." Of course we should! May we never let the unbelief of some spoil the chance for belief in others. Just think: For every hundred people who didn't believe in Jesus, one person did--Peter, John, Mary Magdalene, Paul. Can we really deny the people of our age the same opportunity?

Do you know that Christ is in you? Do you believe that your very presence in a crowded room can have noticeable effect? You are the salt of the earth and light for the world. The closer you get to Jesus, the more "salty" you will become. People will notice Christ in you and become thirsty for his presence. And the closer you get to Jesus, the more brightly your light will shine to a world trapped in darkness and sin. As it grows brighter, your light can draw members of your family, friends, and even strangers to Jesus. Your witness need not be dramatic or miraculous, but it can be very effective.

Every day in prayer, let God transform you more and more into the image of his Son. Then, as you go about your day, let him speak through your words and deeds. You can be a sign to this world. Live the gospel, and you will preach the gospel. Make a friend with the love of Christ, and you will make a convert. Be Jesus to the people in your life, and you will share Jesus.

"Father, fill me with unconditional love for my neighbor. Jesus, transform my heart and mind. Holy Spirit, let your light shine through me. Holy Trinity, make me into the person you created me to be."

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Have a great day, everyone.

454 posted on 10/15/2001 6:35:09 AM PDT by al_c
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To: the808bass
Uh...sure we can. And we have just as much right as the Catholics. The fact that you claim that and then point to Protestants as "begun by humans" shows your foundation for belief. Nothing more, nothing less.

Unless you can prove the origin of your church was during Apostolic times you cannot claim this. The foundation of my belief is based on Matthew 16:18. Christ established the church.

And that makes us different from you How, exactly?

We received the full deposit of faith from Christ and the Apostles. We also received the promise of Christ to be with his Church and protect it for all time. No Protestant Church can claim this. All Protestant arguments are based upon one of several false notions. One is that somehow this Church Christ established went awry and it took a reformer to straighten it out. Another is this Church Christ established has always been around but it was invisible for 1500 + years. Another is your subset theory. All of these theories are false because it would render the promise of Christ to be worthless and there is no credible evidence to support any of them.

455 posted on 10/15/2001 6:53:08 AM PDT by pegleg
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