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To: jimmy bob's uncle
I have a couple questions about your post.
Shoot.

"As a (non-using) Conservative...."
What does this mean? What aren't you using? Obviously cocaine, heroin and meth...as you speak out against those. But what about tobacco, caffeine, sugar, partially hydrogentated vegetable oil?

Not anymore, yes, yes, and yes.
I also used to use Marijuana in my youth, but no longer. And you also left out alcohol, which I use in extreme moderation, especially when compared to my use in previously mentioned youth.

"Cocaine, powder or Crack, Heroin, Meth and other forms of Speed are too dangerous to be used privately."
This is fine, you shouldn't have to use them if you don't want. But isn't danger relative? And if it is relative, then isn't it up to each of us to decide what is to dangerous and what isn't?

Libertianism taken to an extreme is no different than Liberalism or Conservatism taken to extremes. Tell you what, if you pledge to refuse all payments for medical treatments, either from private insurance companies or from the Government, that arise from your use of heroin, crack or meth, then I will reconsider your 'right' to use those drugs. Of course, then you'll have to ask me to make the same pledge regarding 'Big Macs.'

Whatever happened to the principles behind "...I disagree with what you say, but will fight to the death to defend your right to say it." If they're not hurting you, then why bother them? And if they are hurting you, then does it matter whether they were stoned or not when they did?

Perhaps you are unaware of the experiments in the Netherlands with legalizing Heroin? Producing a generation of drugged out zombies does affect us all in terms of national health care and national productivity.

If you want to obtain a Doctor's prescription for Heroin to control your pain during a terminal illness, God bless you. If all you want to do is stay stoned all day, then sooner or later you ARE going to affect the rest of society in some way.

And I still defend to the death your right to say Heroin should be legalized. I just don't agree with your statement.

6 posted on 10/01/2001 12:03:42 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo
Perhaps you are unaware of the experiments in the Netherlands with legalizing Heroin? Producing a generation of drugged out zombies

Provide evidence that the Netherlands' heroin policy produced a generation of drugged out zombies.

If all you want to do is stay stoned all day, then sooner or later you ARE going to affect the rest of society in some way.

Everything affects everybody. In a free society, goverment's only legitimate concern is HARM, not EFFECT.

7 posted on 10/01/2001 12:26:32 PM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: Yo-Yo
Perhaps you are unaware of the experiments in the Netherlands with legalizing Heroin? Producing a generation of drugged out zombies does affect us all in terms of national health care and national productivity.

On the contrary, the average age of the heroin user in the Netherlands has increased since the change in status. What does that mean? It means that those who used, continue to use, and young folks aren't finding their way to heroin.

In this country, according to the DOJ's stats, young folks in the US are starting younger with drugs, and experimenting with harder stuff, like heroin and designer drugs like ecstasy.

In addition, criminalization of any substance creates demand, and exorbitant profits. Turkey did the groundwork and traced back both drugs and profit to organizations like bin Laden's.

Please name me two scotch distilleries (or rum distilleries, or Napa valley wineries) who are currently providing funding for terrorist organizations.

15 posted on 10/01/2001 3:14:15 PM PDT by That Poppins Woman
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