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WALL STREET JOURNAL: BUSH SR. IN BUSINESS WITH BIN LADEN FAMILY CONGLOMERATE THROUGH CARLYLE GROUP
Judicial Watch ^ | September 30, 2001 | staff

Posted on 09/30/2001 8:10:34 AM PDT by liberallarry

WALL STREET JOURNAL: BUSH SR. IN BUSINESS WITH BIN LADEN FAMILY CONGLOMERATE THROUGH CARLYLE GROUP

FAMILY HAD RENOUNCED TIES TO TERRORIST SON BUT FAMILY STILL UNDER FBI INVESTIGATION

FATHER OF PRESIDENT SHOULD PULL OUT OF INTERNATIONAL CONSULTING FIRM


(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest law firm that investigates and prosecutes government corruption and abuse, reacted with disbelief to The Wall Street Journal report of yesterday that George H.W. Bush, the father of President Bush, works for the bin Laden family business in Saudi Arabia through the Carlyle Group, an international consulting firm. The senior Bush had met with the bin Laden family at least twice. (Other top Republicans are also associated with the Carlyle group, such as former Secretary of State James A. Baker.) The terrorist leader Osama bin Laden had supposedly been “disowned” by his family, which runs a multi-billion dollar business in Saudi Arabia and is a major investor in the senior Bush’s firm. Other reports have questioned, though, whether members of his Saudi family have truly cut off Osama bin Laden. Indeed, the Journal also reported yesterday that the FBI has subpoenaed the bin Laden family business’s bank records.

Judicial Watch earlier this year had strongly criticized President Bush’s father’s association with the Carlyle Group, pointing out in a March 5 statement that it was a “conflict of interest (which) could cause problems for America’s foreign policy in Middle East and Asia.” Judicial Watch called for the senior Bush to resign from the firm then.

“This conflict of interest has now turned into a scandal. The idea of the President’s father, an ex-president himself, doing business with a company under investigation by the FBI in the terror attacks of September 11 is horrible. President Bush should not ask, but demand, that his father pull out of the Carlyle Group,” stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman.

“This has the potential of making ‘Billygate’ (Jimmy Carter’s brother’s dealings with Libya) look like small potatoes,” added Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

See "Bin Laden Family Could Profit From a Jump In Defense Spending Due to Ties to U.S. Bank," by Daniel Golden, James Bandler, and Marcus Walker, The Wall Street Journal, 9/28/01 (www.wsj.com, subscription required).


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To: SLJP
Sorry. I'm new to this and didn't do a search. That will not happen again. Could you post the link to the previous rehash? I'd like to read it.
41 posted on 09/30/2001 9:27:15 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Jorge
I know that. I just don't trust. Why do you?
42 posted on 09/30/2001 9:29:13 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Howlin
And why is that better?
43 posted on 09/30/2001 9:39:46 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
Larry would like us to all think that GHWB is working FOR/WITH bin Laden, as oppose to the FACT that part of the bin Laden businesses having invested in a part of the group Bush belongs to.

If that is the truth, then Larry's press release doesn't make sense.

But if Larry is right, then Larry works for the bin Laden groups every time HE fills up his car.

44 posted on 09/30/2001 9:49:58 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Carlucci, Soros? Pure as snow in NYC ----

"The sponsorship of the Rothschilds--- (EIR Investigation
Executive Intelligence Review (EIR), November 1, 1996)

Soros's relation to the Rothschild finance circle represents no ordinary or
casual banking connection. It goes a long way to explain the extraordinary
success of a mere private speculator, and Soros's uncanny ability to "gamble
right" so many times in such high-risk markets. Soros has access to the
"insider track" in some of the most important government and private
channels in the world."

""Among Soros's silent investors, these sources say, are the fugitive metals and oil trader Marc Rich, based in Zug, Switzerland; and Shaul Eisenberg, a decades-long member of Israeli Mossad intelligence, who functions as a major arms merchant throughout Asia and the Near East. Eisenberg was recently banned from doing business in Uzbekistan, where he had been accused by the government of massive fraud and corruption. A third Soros partner is Israel's "Dirty Rafi" Eytan, who served in London previously as Mossad liaison to British intelligence.

And then there's Carlucci and Bushes and Soros and ........... http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3857577920af.htm

"Scowcroft in an earlier period...the same period of the BCCI takeover of Financial General Bankshares, was an important shareholder in in the now defunct National Bank of Washington [NBW]. Another major shareholder was Saudi Arabian Wafic Said. Robert Abboud was a board member of Said's holding company and and a board member of NBW. Abboud ties to Bin Mafouz, [who ties to George Bush Jr. and BCCI, and Chicago, and David Edwards, and Arkansas, and Clinton, etc..and remember that George Bush Jr. connects to Harken. Harken connects to Alan Quasha, to his dad, who was a lawyer for Nugan Hand in the Philipines. Harken also connects to Jackson Stephens through David Edwards, to Talat Othman [to Carlucci through the NCEE] to Bakhsh, to Mike Ameen, to Kamal Adham and to George Soros, the man behind the marijauna laws in California and Arizona.] [BCCI also connects in many ways to Jeb Bush, in Miami, but that's another story.]

45 posted on 09/30/2001 10:02:23 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: liberallarry
This is so very sad.

Where do I go to get the money I donated to JW (when they weren't a bunch of unfocused, publicity-seeking, PR-conscious, paranoid opportunists) BACK? Thank God it wasn't that much.

46 posted on 09/30/2001 10:16:58 AM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: harpu
You know Hitlary and the Dems are going to come out swing and do what ever it takes to bring down this country. Don't blame Klayman if he reports on something that doesn't agree with you. Regardless of who is doing business with any of these people that may be connected to the terrorist in any way it should be reported and stopped. Wall Street made a lot of money with the Clintons in office and they will cover up her butt at any cost. Did Wall Street know when the oil prices were going to go up, did they know when Clinton was going to bomb Iraq, did they know that the SLAUGHTER of the Serbs was just an excuse for going after the Oil Refineries. I wonder how much money was made on Oil Options? I wonder if the Clintons billion dollar phony book deals are just a way of covering up the wealth?
47 posted on 09/30/2001 10:29:07 AM PDT by rebapiper
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To: litany_of_lies
I can't see why everyone complains about Larry. He's racked up 60 recent victories, most of them against the Clinkton Administration. Is it that you don't like it when he looks to the republican party?
For example, he's trying to pressure the IRS into looking at the tax exempt status of groups posing as Islam organizations but are really fronts for HAMAS. Here's that article.
48 posted on 09/30/2001 10:29:12 AM PDT by lelio
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To: Balding_Eagle
Of all the responses posted on this board yours is the only one that really infuriates me.

I don't mind being criticized for doing stupid things (like not doing a search). I deserve it.

I don't mind being told my facts are wrong, or my conclusions, illogical, intemperate, overstated, etc. That's why I post among people I know don't share my beliefs.

I you truly believe I have not offered anything of worth, that I'm an amateur among professionals, then your view is justified. I see no evidence of that.

Rather, I see intense partisanship, intolerance, self-righteousness, etc., etc. It's extraordinarily difficult to get past that, to the people who know more than I do, whose wit, clarity, and knowledge I value.

If the rest of you just want to talk to yourselves. Be my guest.

49 posted on 09/30/2001 10:52:42 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry; Howlin, deport, ALL
Previous rehash? Sure! Click on The real WSJ Online Article and Thread.

A trial two-week subscription is free; if you had wanted to access it, you could have. For nothing. You didn't actually want to see the real thing, though, did you? You'd be perfectly content to take Klayman's word for it. That's the impression I get, anyway. If it's a false one, my apologies.

50 posted on 09/30/2001 10:56:52 AM PDT by Beep
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To: BunnySlippers; Irma; Howlin; deport; ALL
Yeah, I know, but they would all rather believe that Bush, Sr is intimately involved with terrorists! Bush, Jr too. Puh-leeze! It's like I said on the first go-'round; when I was younger, if people had judged my family by what I was doing, they would have been soooooo off-base! My family despised what I was doing. They should have. (I was a bad little girl; I was in the music biz and my two husbands were both in the music biz. My second husband died of cancer in 1996. First hubby is still alive and plays drums [and guitar, on CDs] for Merle Haggard.) Anything I did while running with that crowd was scary stuff. Until they grew up, anyway! Me too!

Ramble, ramble, ramble. . . . Sorry! The point is, you cannot judge a person's family by what they do. My dad is a French teacher, and very active in the church. My mother is the parish nurse and an ordained minister with the church. My youngest sister's hubby lived in Tokyo until he came over here for college; his parents are Methodist missionaries there. They're all genuine Christians. The real article. Not "fakey" ones. They never condoned my wild departure! Never!! (I'm not wild about remembering it myself.)

And that's the truthhhhhhhhhhhh! ;-p

51 posted on 09/30/2001 11:08:22 AM PDT by Beep
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To: liberallarry
Maybe Larry can sue all of the people who bought sandwiches at "Osama's Place" in Fayetteville, NC. It would make as much sense as the above article.
52 posted on 09/30/2001 11:08:28 AM PDT by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Balding_Eagle; Howlin; deport; Irma; BunnySlippers; ALL
Amen!! But you know they would scream "censorship!" I say, let 'em scream! This site posts, in obvious places, that it is a conservative forum. Any liberal who posts a load of bunk should not be surprised by whatever they read in return!
53 posted on 09/30/2001 11:12:39 AM PDT by Beep
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To: lelio
I used to respect Judicial Watch immensely.

If it weren't for them bringing John Huang out of the closet about a week before the 1996 election, Clinton may have won in a landslide; as it is, he got just short of 50% of the vote. If JW had somehow been able to force him out about a week earlier, the election could conceivably have gone the other way. Although there's no way Dole would have a majority of the popular vote, a +4% to Dole and -4% to Clinton would have gotten Dole the electoral votes of Arizona (8 votes), Florida (25), Kentucky (8), Missouri (11), Nevada (4), New Mexico (5), Ohio (21), and Tennessee (11). Clinton won 379-159 in the EC. The 93 votes I just noted would have made it 286-252. A +5, -5 swing in Pennsylvania (23) would have put Dole over the top.

I believe, and the poll numbers leading up to the election mostly show, that Clinton lost about 5% in the final week or so of the campaign, mostly because the truth about the China connection was beginning to come out, and because Ross Perot was hammering on the topic mercilessly (and getting covered by the lib press, who thought it would attract Dole voters to Perot, when it was really attracting Clinton voters to Dole). Another week of pounding on the China connection could easily have moved another 5%.

During this time and about the next 2-3 years, JW did its best work. Starting at about the time of Elian Gonzalez, I believe Klayman & Co. made a conscious decision to attempt to inject themselves into anything that even remotely looked like a publicity opportunity. They also started wasting time (in retrospect) on a weekly talk show, an annual cruise (are you kidding me?), and in general institutionalizing themselves.

They started losing focus, and winning fewer victories. Most of the 60 victories you cite either occurred before this time or were the result of momentum built up previously.

To name just a few examples, I don't think they have done enough to nail Al Gore on his e-mails, Carol Browner on her erased hard drive the day she left offfice, and Hillary on Filegate. I don't think they ever will, because they are too busy chasing after relatively inconsequential matters they can't possibly influence.

It's a d*** shame.

54 posted on 09/30/2001 11:14:39 AM PDT by litany_of_lies
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To: Howlin; ALL
Ha HAAA!! Excellent point!! They don't want to know the truth, you guys! They want to believe the liberal tripe in JW. It makes them feel better. True evil cannot believe that true goodness exists. Not an original quote. I forgot where I read that, but it is soooooo true!!
55 posted on 09/30/2001 11:17:46 AM PDT by Beep
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To: rebapiper; Howlin; deport; ALL
Wall Street made a lot of money with the Clintons in office and they will cover up her butt at any cost.

They aren't in "effective" office anymore, though! I'm curious as to how much money it takes to cover up that huge derriere of hers?! ;-}

56 posted on 09/30/2001 11:24:25 AM PDT by Beep
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To: lelio
    … For example, he's trying to pressure the IRS into looking at the tax exempt status of groups posing as Islam organizations but are really fronts for HAMAS. ….

Don’t reckon ol’ larr would want the IRS to look at all tax exempts, now do you. It would be nice to know what goes on behind closed does in all of them.

    Judicial Watch Inc., a tax-exempt, not-for-profit, Washington, D.C.-based watchdog, frequently promotes itself as an organization committed to bringing lawsuits to expose government corruption. But its tax forms show that it spent only 5.8% of the $12.4 million it raised from donors and foundations in 1998 on litigation. ........

    .....The Form 990 reveals that while Judicial Watch spent more than $9 million on its education/fund-raising mailings, it spent only $718,626 pursuing its lawsuits--almost $280,000 less than it paid American Target Advertising, run by conservative direct-mail guru Richard Viguerie, to design and run its direct-mail campaign. ......


57 posted on 09/30/2001 12:23:54 PM PDT by deport
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To: Howlin
I've read both articles. Both say the bin Laden family invested in the Carlyle group.
Judicial Watch says former President Bush works for the bin Laden family. (I assume they say that because the investors can be said to be the owners.) That may be a stretch. Is Mr. Bush a fellow investor? Or is he employed by the company? Or both?
58 posted on 09/30/2001 12:27:30 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: rdavis84
Thanks for this one. A lot of threads to follow, now that I know the extent of the controversy.
59 posted on 09/30/2001 12:30:52 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Harrison Bergeron
LOL!
60 posted on 09/30/2001 12:30:59 PM PDT by Irma
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