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WALL STREET JOURNAL: BUSH SR. IN BUSINESS WITH BIN LADEN FAMILY CONGLOMERATE THROUGH CARLYLE GROUP
Judicial Watch ^ | September 30, 2001 | staff

Posted on 09/30/2001 8:10:34 AM PDT by liberallarry

WALL STREET JOURNAL: BUSH SR. IN BUSINESS WITH BIN LADEN FAMILY CONGLOMERATE THROUGH CARLYLE GROUP

FAMILY HAD RENOUNCED TIES TO TERRORIST SON BUT FAMILY STILL UNDER FBI INVESTIGATION

FATHER OF PRESIDENT SHOULD PULL OUT OF INTERNATIONAL CONSULTING FIRM


(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest law firm that investigates and prosecutes government corruption and abuse, reacted with disbelief to The Wall Street Journal report of yesterday that George H.W. Bush, the father of President Bush, works for the bin Laden family business in Saudi Arabia through the Carlyle Group, an international consulting firm. The senior Bush had met with the bin Laden family at least twice. (Other top Republicans are also associated with the Carlyle group, such as former Secretary of State James A. Baker.) The terrorist leader Osama bin Laden had supposedly been “disowned” by his family, which runs a multi-billion dollar business in Saudi Arabia and is a major investor in the senior Bush’s firm. Other reports have questioned, though, whether members of his Saudi family have truly cut off Osama bin Laden. Indeed, the Journal also reported yesterday that the FBI has subpoenaed the bin Laden family business’s bank records.

Judicial Watch earlier this year had strongly criticized President Bush’s father’s association with the Carlyle Group, pointing out in a March 5 statement that it was a “conflict of interest (which) could cause problems for America’s foreign policy in Middle East and Asia.” Judicial Watch called for the senior Bush to resign from the firm then.

“This conflict of interest has now turned into a scandal. The idea of the President’s father, an ex-president himself, doing business with a company under investigation by the FBI in the terror attacks of September 11 is horrible. President Bush should not ask, but demand, that his father pull out of the Carlyle Group,” stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman.

“This has the potential of making ‘Billygate’ (Jimmy Carter’s brother’s dealings with Libya) look like small potatoes,” added Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

See "Bin Laden Family Could Profit From a Jump In Defense Spending Due to Ties to U.S. Bank," by Daniel Golden, James Bandler, and Marcus Walker, The Wall Street Journal, 9/28/01 (www.wsj.com, subscription required).


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1 posted on 09/30/2001 8:10:34 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
George H.W. Bush, the father of President Bush, works for the bin Laden family business in Saudi Arabia

With his next breath, Larry Klayman will inform us that we need more spies on the ground.


2 posted on 09/30/2001 8:15:19 AM PDT by Nick Danger
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To: liberallarry
Gee, I wonder if these dumb bastards at Judicial Watch are wondering why their contributions are drying-up and almost nonexistent any more?!?
3 posted on 09/30/2001 8:16:58 AM PDT by harpu
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To: liberallarry
Lawrence IB Klayman (IB=idiot breath) is so discredited no one believes anything he says anymore.
4 posted on 09/30/2001 8:17:10 AM PDT by imberedux
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To: imberedux; Nick Danger; liberallarry
I also wonder if Judicial Watch is going to be Salon.com's 'white knight' when their bankruptcy comes or will Salon.com be Judicial Watch's 'white knight' when their bankruptcy comes a knockin'!?!
5 posted on 09/30/2001 8:21:23 AM PDT by harpu
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To: liberallarry
It's a shame that Klayman can't differentiate between the Bin Ladin group and Usamaa bin Ladin. The Government of Saudi Arabia can; it works with the former although it is perfectly aware that at least three members of the Bin Ladin family are determined to destroy it and Wahabbi rule in Saudi Arabia. There is a parallel in American history. The Booth family became pariahs as the consequence of the action of one of its members.
6 posted on 09/30/2001 8:21:59 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: Nick Danger
Nick, here is the actual article that was in The Wall Street Journal.

See if YOU think Larry is telling the truth about what The WSJ said.

Bin Laden Family Could Profit From a Jump In Defense Spending Due to Ties to U.S. Bank

Here's ONE quote from the article:

There is no indication President George W. Bush has met any of the bin Ladens, but he was indirectly linked to one of them two decades ago

7 posted on 09/30/2001 8:24:31 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: SLJP, deport, sinkspur, Irma, Miss Marple, TrueBeliever9
Look what has popped up yet again!
8 posted on 09/30/2001 8:25:46 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: liberallarry
Larry Clymer used to get some donations from the conservative side of the fence. I don't think liberals part with their $$ for donations like this. Hell its hard enough for liberal politicians to get them to pry their wallets open for political campaigns. They like the Govt. to take it from them in taxes and then distribute it.

His money has dried up, and folks like Liberallarry aren't going to fill the gap.

Ashland, Missouri

9 posted on 09/30/2001 8:28:07 AM PDT by rface
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To: liberallarry
Did anyone see this in the WSJ? I didn't but could have missed it.
10 posted on 09/30/2001 8:28:33 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: Howlin
If terrorism is a bin Laden family business, why did the Clinton Admin hire the bin Laden family's construction company to rebuild the Khobar Towers. At least, that's what I heard. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
11 posted on 09/30/2001 8:28:55 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: liberallarry
NOT WSJ, Larry Klayman and Judicial Witch.
12 posted on 09/30/2001 8:29:19 AM PDT by onyx
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To: liberallarry
The article from which ol larr makes his assertions......

Bin Laden Family Could Profit From a Jump In Defense Spending Due to Ties to U.S. Bank

If the U.S. boosts defense spending in its quest to stop Osama bin Laden's alleged terrorist activities, there may be one unexpected beneficiary: Mr. bin Laden's family.

Among its far-flung business interests, the well-heeled Saudi Arabian clan -- which says it is estranged from Osama -- is an investor in a fund established by Carlyle Group, a well-connected Washington merchant bank specializing in buyouts of defense and aerospace companies.

Through this investment and its ties to Saudi royalty, the bin Laden family has become acquainted with some of the biggest names in the Republican Party. In recent years, former President Bush, ex-Secretary of State James Baker and ex-Secretary of Defense Frank Carlucci have made the pilgrimage to the bin Laden family's headquarters in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Mr. Bush makes speeches on behalf of Carlyle Group and is senior adviser to its Asian Partners fund, while Mr. Baker is its senior counselor. Mr. Carlucci is the group's chairman.

Osama is one of more than 50 children of Mohammed bin Laden, who built the family's $5 billion business, Saudi Binladin Group, largely with construction contracts from the Saudi government. Osama worked briefly in the business and is believed to have inherited as much as $50 million from his father in cash and stock, although he doesn't have access to the shares, a family spokesman says. Because his Saudi citizenship was revoked in 1994, Mr. bin Laden is ineligible to own assets in the kingdom, the spokesman added.

The bin Laden family has long disavowed Osama, and has cooperated fully with several federal investigations into his activities. The family business, headed by Osama's half-brother Bakr, epitomizes the U.S.-Saudi alliance that the suspected terrorist often rails against. After the 1996 truck bombing in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, that killed 19 U.S. servicemen, Saudi Binladin Group built military barracks and airfields for U.S. troops.

But the Federal Bureau of Investigation has issued subpoenas to banks used by the bin Laden family seeking records of family dealings, a person familiar with the matter said. This person said the subpoenas weren't an indication the FBI had found any suspicious behavior by the family. A family spokesman said he had no knowledge of the subpoenas but that the family welcomes them and has nothing to hide.

People familiar with the family's finances say the bin Ladens do much of their banking with National Commercial Bank in Saudi Arabia and with the London branch of Deutsche Bank AG. They also use Citigroup Inc. and ABN Amro, the people said.

"If there were ever any company closely connected to the U.S. and its presence in Saudi Arabia, it's the Saudi Binladin Group," says Charles Freeman, president of the Middle East Policy Council, a Washington nonprofit concern that receives tens of thousands of dollars a year from the bin Laden family. "They're the establishment that Osama's trying to overthrow."

Mr. Freeman, who served as U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War, says he has spoken to two of Osama's brothers since hijacked airplanes rammed the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on Sept. 11. They told him, he says, that the FBI has been "remarkably sensitive, tactful and protective" of the family during the current crisis, recognizing its longstanding friendship with the U.S.

A Carlyle executive said the bin Laden family committed $2 million through a London investment arm in 1995 in Carlyle Partners II Fund, which raised $1.3 billion overall. The fund has purchased several aerospace companies among 29 deals. So far, the family has received $1.3 million back in completed investments and should ultimately realize a 40% annualized rate of return, the Carlyle executive said.

But a foreign financier with ties to the bin Laden family says the family's overall investment with Carlyle is considerably larger. He called the $2 million merely an initial contribution. "It's like plowing a field," this person said. "You seed it once. You plow it, and then you reseed it again."

The Carlyle executive added that he would think twice before accepting any future investments by the bin Ladens. "The situation's changed now," he said. "I don't want to spend my life talking to reporters."

A U.S. inquiry into bin Laden family business dealings could brush against some big names associated with the U.S. government. Former President Bush said through his chief of staff, Jean Becker, that he recalled only one meeting with the bin Laden family, which took place in November 1998. Ms. Becker confirmed that there was a second meeting in January 2000, after being read the ex-president's subsequent thank-you note. "President Bush does not have a relationship with the bin Laden family," says Ms. Becker. "He's met them twice."

Mr. Baker visited the bin Laden family in both 1998 and 1999, according to people close to the family. In the second trip, he traveled on a family plane. Mr. Baker declined comment, as did Mr. Carlucci, a past chairman of Nortel Networks Corp., which has partnered with Saudi Binladin Group on telecommunications ventures.

Former President Carter met with 10 of Osama's brothers early in 2000 on a fund-raising trip for the Carter Center in Atlanta. According to John Hardman, executive director of the center, the brothers told Mr. Carter that Osama was completely removed from the family. After Mr. Carter and his wife followed up with breakfast with Bakr bin Laden in New York in September 2000, the bin Laden family gave $200,000 to the center. "We don't have any reason to think there's a connection" between Osama and the rest of the family, Mr. Hardman says.

During the past several years, the family's close ties to the Saudi royal family prompted executives and staff from closely held New York publisher Forbes Inc. to make two trips to the family headquarters, according to Forbes Chairman Caspar Weinberger, a former U.S. secretary of defense in the Reagan administration. "We would call on them to get their view of the country and what would be of interest to investors."

Mr. Weinberger said no trips to Saudi Arabia were planned. "If we went," he said, "we may or may not call upon them. I don't think the sins of the son should be visited on the father or the brother and the cousins and the aunts."

There is no indication President George W. Bush has met any of the bin Ladens, but he was indirectly linked to one of them two decades ago. His longtime friend James W. Bath, who met Mr. Bush when they were both pilots in the Air National Guard, acted as a Texas business representative for Osama's older brother, Salem bin Laden, from 1976 to 1988, when Salem died in a plane crash. Mr. Bath brought real-estate acquisitions and other deals to Salem bin Laden, an ebullient man who headed the family construction business. Mr. Bath generally received a 5% interest as his fee, and was sometimes listed as a trustee in related corporate documents. Mr. Bath acknowledged that during the same period he invested $50,000 in two funds controlled by Mr. Bush but said that stake was unrelated to his dealings with Mr. bin Laden.

Among the properties that Salem bin Laden bought on Mr. Bath's recommendation was the Houston Gulf Airport, a lightly used airfield in League City, Texas, 25 miles east of Houston. But Mr. bin Laden's hope that it would develop a major overflow airport for Houston never materialized, in part due to concern over wetlands. Ever since his death, his estate has sought to sell the airfield -- without success. Today, it is still on the market.

Write to Daniel Golden at dan.golden@wsj.com1, James Bandler at james.bandler@wsj.com2 and Marcus Walker at marcus.walker@wsj.com3

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13 posted on 09/30/2001 8:32:12 AM PDT by deport
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To: Howlin; liberallarry; ALL
Thanks for the Ping! UNbelievable!! This has already been hashed and rehashed, Liberal Larry dear. Didn't you do a search before posting?? Tsk! Tsk!

Please -- everyone, do read the original article. IMVHO, here is absolutely no correlation between the real piece and JW's interpretation of it. But please take a look and decide for yourselves?!

Only part of it can be copied and pasted, in accordance to copyright laws. A subscription is needed to get it on the link. I subscribe already and have for a while, but you can get a free trial subscription for two weeks. ;-}

14 posted on 09/30/2001 8:32:13 AM PDT by Beep
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To: deport
Alright deport!! *G* Maybe it will stay up a while intact; I hope so!!
15 posted on 09/30/2001 8:33:47 AM PDT by Beep
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To: Howlin
yep over here also
16 posted on 09/30/2001 8:34:47 AM PDT by deport
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To: BunnySlippers
See #10.
17 posted on 09/30/2001 8:35:38 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: SLJP, deport
SLJP, thanks for finding the article.

Deport, thanks for putting it up on this thread. I couldn't get the dang thing to post!

18 posted on 09/30/2001 8:36:35 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
#8 - again, and again, and again....

Consider the source - of the article, and the poster who is a Clinton/Gore supporter!

19 posted on 09/30/2001 8:37:27 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun; liberallarry; Howlin; deport; BunnySlippers; ALL
Sore/Loserman!! Get over it!! Grrrrrrrrrrrrr!!
20 posted on 09/30/2001 8:39:29 AM PDT by Beep
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