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Bin Laden Family Could Profit From a Jump In Defense Spending Due to Ties to U.S. Bank
Wall Street Journal Online ^ | September 27, 2001 | DANIEL GOLDEN, JAMES BANDLER and MARCUS WALKER

Posted on 09/28/2001 10:08:18 PM PDT by Beep

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:45:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

If the U.S. boosts defense spending in its quest to stop Osama bin Laden's alleged terrorist activities, there may be one unexpected beneficiary: Mr. bin Laden's family.

Among its far-flung business interests, the well-heeled Saudi Arabian clan -- which says it is estranged from Osama -- is an investor in a fund established by Carlyle Group, a well-connected Washington merchant bank specializing in buyouts of defense and aerospace companies.


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To: Howlin
Shazam ... I'm wondering why I didn't make the Powell connection (along with Weinberg) either.

A teaser from the NYT (3/5/2001) Elder Bush in Big G.O.P. Cast Toiling for Top Equity Firm by Leslie Wayne



... The steady flow of politicians to lucrative private-sector jobs based on their government contacts is a familiar Washington tale. But in this case, it is being played out for more dollars, on a global stage, and in the world of private finance, where the minimal government rules prohibiting lobbying by former officials for a given period are not a factor. These rules say nothing about potential conflicts when former government officials use their connections and insights for financial gain, and they may attract more notice now that George W. Bush is president. Many of those involved with Carlyle, which invests largely in companies that do business with the government or are affected by government regulations, have ties to the Oval Office.

For instance, Frank C. Carlucci, a Reagan secretary of defense who as much as anyone is responsible for Carlyle's success, said he met in February with his old college classmate Donald H. Rumsfeld, the secretary of defense, and Vice President Dick Cheney, himself a defense secretary under former President Bush, to talk about military matters — at a time when Carlyle has several billion-dollar defense projects under consideration.

Carlyle officials contend that the firm's activities do not present any potential conflicts since Mr. Bush, Mr. Baker and other former Republican officials now at Carlyle — including Mr. Carlucci, who is Carlyle's chairman, and Richard G. Darman, Mr. Bush's former budget director — do not lobby the federal government. Carlyle executives point out that many corporations have former government officials as board members.

"Mr. Bush gives us no advice on what do with with the federal government," said David Rubenstein, the firm's founder and a former aide in the Carter White House. "We've gone over backwards to make sure that we do no lobbying."

Others, however, see little difference between potential conflicts involving lobbying and those involving investments.

"Carlyle is as deeply wired into the current administration as they can possibly be," said Charles Lewis, executive director of the Center for Public Integrity, a nonprofit public interest group based in Washington. "George Bush is getting money from private interests that have business before the government, while his son is president. And, in a really peculiar way, George W. Bush could, some day, benefit financially from his own administration's decisions, through his father's investments. The average American doesn't know that and, to me, that's a jaw-dropper."

It is difficult to determine exactly how much money the senior Mr. Bush and Mr. Baker have made. Mr. Baker is a Carlyle partner, and Mr. Bush has the title senior adviser to its Asian activities. With a current market value of about $3.5 billion on Carlyle's equity and with the firm owned by 18 partners and one outside investor, Mr. Baker's Carlyle stake would be worth about $180 million if each partner held an equal stake. It is not known whether he has more or less than the other partners.

Unlike Mr. Baker, Mr. Bush has no ownership stake in Carlyle; he is an adviser and an investor and is compensated by obtaining stakes in Carlyle investments. Carlyle executives cited, for example, Mr. Bush's being allowed to put money he earns giving speeches for Carlyle into its investment funds. Mr. Bush generally receives $80,000 to $100,000 for a speech. He sits on no corporate boards other than Carlyle's.

Carlyle also gave the Bush family a hand in 1990 by putting George W. Bush, who was then struggling to find a career, on the board of a Carlyle subsidiary, Caterair, an airline-catering company.

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Carlyle has become the nation's 11th largest defense contractor, owning companies that make tanks, aircraft wings and a broad array of other military equipment. It also owns health care companies, real estate, Internet companies, a bottling company and even Le Figaro, the French newspaper.

"Carlyle is one of the most successful fund-raising groups," said Mario L. Giannini, president of Hamilton Lane, a Philadelphia consultant to institutional investors. "They have tremendous access and they have done very well with their money."

And its access extends well beyond American shores. In Europe, Carlyle has assembled an advisory board that besides Mr. Major includes Karl Otto Pöhl, former president of German's Bundesbank, and the past or present chairmen of B.M.W., Hoffman-LaRoche, Nestlé, LVMH-Moët Hennessy, Louis Vuitton and Aerospatiale, the French Airbus partner.

Carlyle's Asia advisory board, which helps raise money and finds and reviews deals, includes former President Fidel V. Ramos of the Philippines, the former prime minister of Thailand and the executive director of the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority. The former South Korean prime minister Park Tae Joon was also an adviser to Carlyle.

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One of the people who put Carlyle on the map — developing its riches and its image — is Mr. Carlucci, who joined the firm in 1989 when it had engaged in a string of ill-fated ventures. He is credited with steering Carlyle into successful defense industry acquisitions — just when other investors were shunning them — and with using his seat on more than a dozen corporate boards to bring Carlyle deals and investors.

In an office adorned with photographs of Mr. Carlucci and the politically mighty — he sits beneath an Oval Office picture of himself and Mr. Reagan — Mr. Carlucci makes it clear that his extensive government and global ties are as fresh as ever.

"I know Rumsfeld extremely well," Mr. Carlucci said in an interview. "We've been close friends throughout the years. We were college classmates."

Pointing to a picture of the Chinese president, he said, "There's a photo of me and Jiang Zemin. And there's me and the president of Taiwan."

Right now, Carlyle is hoping that financing is provided for the $13.7 billion Crusader program. The Crusader is a heavy-duty tank made by a Carlyle portfolio company and other contractors. And Carlyle just lodged a complaint with the government after another of its portfolio companies lost a $4 billion contract to build a lightweight combat vehicle.

While Mr. Carlucci is open about his discussions with Mr. Rumsfeld on Pentagon policies, he said he never lobbies. "I've made it clear that I don't lobby the defense industry," Mr. Carlucci said. "I will give our Carlyle bankers advice on what they might do and who they should talk to. But I do not pick up the phone and say you should fund X, Y or Z."



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21 posted on 09/28/2001 10:45:49 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Askel5, Howlin, ALL
OH yeah -- the NY Times is completely impartial! /sarcasm off

;-p

22 posted on 09/28/2001 10:49:12 PM PDT by Beep
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To: SLJP
Please point out the quotes and/or facts you believe the New York Times made up to advance their liberal agenda.
23 posted on 09/28/2001 10:51:50 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Howlin
From the WSJ article:

There is no indication President George W. Bush has met any of the bin Ladens,

It seems as though Klayman is making a HUGE stretch here by trying connect them to a murky business partnership.

24 posted on 09/28/2001 10:53:09 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: SLJP
Good work! Make that excellent!
25 posted on 09/28/2001 10:55:21 PM PDT by onyx
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To: Howlin, deport
Very interesting. I saw this garbage on JW's website after deport called my attention to it. I dismissed it because of the source, but now I see how deliberately misleading it was and I am even more disgusted. Either Klayman isn't very bright or he is dangerously delusional. I guess he thinks that people won't see through his distortion.
26 posted on 09/28/2001 10:58:34 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Askel5
So what do you expect me to "rip apart?" If you'll kindly point out the laws they are breaking, I'll be glad to respond. Or are being Bush's father and making money illegal now? At least it's all there for the world to see.

And I can't see as how this has anything to do with Larry Klayman making up press releases.

27 posted on 09/28/2001 10:59:03 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: CheneyChick
As opposed to Klayman's statement: The senior Bush had met with the bin Laden family at least twice.
28 posted on 09/28/2001 11:03:01 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: kattracks
FYI.
29 posted on 09/28/2001 11:04:06 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Fair enough. Thanks.
30 posted on 09/28/2001 11:05:52 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Askel5, Howlin, ALL
You want me to reprint the whole thing?! Unnecessary! The NYT's rep speaks for itself. It's never what, but how; you should know that by now! (Poet and don't know it! But on target too.) Everybody knows the NYT for what it is! Not unlike our lovely Nashville Tennessean. Rat bent rag.
31 posted on 09/28/2001 11:06:49 PM PDT by Beep
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To: onyx, Howlin, ALL
Thanks! But I just lucked out! I don't tend to take things at face value. I always check!
32 posted on 09/28/2001 11:08:44 PM PDT by Beep
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To: SLJP
Good job, girl.

CC :)

33 posted on 09/28/2001 11:10:52 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Howlin
It does seem hard to believe that they NEVER crossed paths.

Who knows. I suspect that if Klayman's citing only two encounters, those are the only for which he's got proof.

I'll keep reading.

34 posted on 09/28/2001 11:12:28 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: CheneyChick
Thank you, CC! Just doing my homework. ;-}
35 posted on 09/28/2001 11:13:25 PM PDT by Beep
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To: Askel5
I hope you notice that I didn't say I think it's swell that GHWB and his pals are doing this.
36 posted on 09/28/2001 11:13:40 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Askel5
I will read what you post, but PLEASE, don't ever use "proof" in the same sentence with Klayman. He hasn't got any of that.
37 posted on 09/28/2001 11:15:53 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: SLJP
The entire article's cut from whole cloth?

And here I was ready to join Howlin in being proud of the way our Public Servants make an honest buck in the off-season (or beyond our seamless national borders).

38 posted on 09/28/2001 11:20:25 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Howlin
My thoughts exactly. If he had proof, it would have been splashed everywhere! It's "how." I'm tellin' ya! Get a whiff of something, word it just so, throw it out there, and hope people bite! Classic crap. (Journalism major -- sorry! This kind of stuff irks me to no end!)
39 posted on 09/28/2001 11:21:13 PM PDT by Beep
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To: Howlin
Oh dear ... I didn't pick up the "not swell" part.

I take back my inferring pride on your part. Doesn't make me very proud either, actually.

As for "proof", I think you'd be surprised. Besides, there is the admissible evidence that is the body of sworn testimony he's built. Awesome. As a Bloodhound, I can tell you it's been invaluable in many respects.

40 posted on 09/28/2001 11:23:08 PM PDT by Askel5
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