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Unfree Republic: Thread II
Lewrockwell.com ^ | September 24, 2001 | Jeff Elkins

Posted on 09/24/2001 4:24:58 PM PDT by Rebeckie

Unfree Republic

by Jeff Elkins

Let the stench of Middle East flesh reach Paradise reassuring them that these filth have gone to hell permanently."

The quote above is representative of many posted on the FreeRepublic.com site in the wake of the WTC attack, and unfortunately its like is not uncommon elsewhere. Americans are angry, predictably and rightly so, but just as predictable are the side effects. As always, that righteous anger will be accepted as a beloved gift by the state and molded into tools of oppression.

It’s funny how that works. Every single state-sponsored war the US has become embroiled in has resulted in an inexorable increase in the power of the state.

It’s also funny that it’s always assumed that human behavior in the past has no relation to how we behave today. Why those people were old-fashioned, we’re modern, educated, etc.

The beginning of this repeating pattern has already become public with the establishment of the Department of Homeland Security. It has an ominous sound, that name, almost Germanic. (I can’t wait to see the uniforms.)

On April 13, 1917, days after our entry into World War One, President Wilson created the Committee on Public Information to promote the war domestically while publicizing American war aims abroad. Bush has replicated that step, with this new cabinet-level department.

Under the leadership of journalistic muckraker George Creel, the CPI was a propaganda apparatus unparalleled at that point in world history. The CPI functioned as a de facto public censor, vetting nearly all published material about the war and helping to draft legislation such as the Espionage Act of 1917 and the Sedition Act of 1918. In the months prior to our entry into the war and especially after our entry when they were nearly criminal, antiwar viewpoints were rarely heard.

The same pattern emerges now: Penn. Gov. Tom Ridge will be President Bush’s George Creel, and just as in those dim days of yesteryear, he’ll have plenty of willing civilian accomplices. And after all, there’s so much more to censor -- Ridge will need all the help he can get. In seeking warriors for the front line of Internet censorship, Ridge needs look no farther than FreeRepublic.com. The atmosphere there is now poisonous.

Again, look back to Wilson's CPI. It encouraged businesses to spy on their employees, parents to spy on their children, children to spy on their parents, neighbors to spy on neighbors, and above all to report "disloyal," pro-German sentiments. State authorities banned the teaching of German in schools and changed German street names. As the madness mounted, those regarded as pro-German were hounded from their jobs, pressured to change their German names, beaten, and in a few cases lynched. Almost all cases of violence, while incited by the state, were carried out by "civilians" in the grip of war hysteria.

Along with this anti-German hysteria, Congress passed several measures designed to rigidly suppress criticism of the war. In particular, the Espionage Act, passed in June 1917, specified a fine of $10,000 or twenty years in prison for "whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully obstruct the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, and whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully utter, print, write, or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of government of the United States, or the military or naval forces of the United States, or the flag."

The Espionage Act was very popular in its day. It was cheered on by mindless lemmings under the influence of state propaganda. Their great grandchildren now inhabit FreeRepublic.com, viciously attacking anyone who questions the wisdom of the state.

Our Congress is considering similar measures under the rubric of "anti-terrorism," and as it was at the beginning of the 20th Century, the FreeRepublic lemmings of the 21st are cheering the morally corrupt politicians along.

It’s not just message posters on the site. The management of FreeRepublic has instituted a "loose lips sink ships" campaign, with new moderators patrolling the forum to delete posts that in their opinion are detrimental to the "war effort."

The FreeRepublic mission statement claims "We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America."

Sanctimonious hogwash. Everything old is new again – the keyboard warriors of FreeRepublic would be right at home in 1917 shilling for Wilson.

September 24, 2001


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To: Rebeckie
The beginning of this repeating pattern has already become public with the establishment of the Department of Homeland Security. It has an ominous sound, that name, almost Germanic. (I can’t wait to see the uniforms.)

No uniforms. Just armbands.

21 posted on 09/24/2001 5:02:42 PM PDT by Storm Orphan
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To: Rebeckie
BUMP
22 posted on 09/24/2001 5:10:15 PM PDT by Aurelius
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To: Pietro
LewRockwell.com is an oasis of sanity in a desert of madness.
23 posted on 09/24/2001 5:12:17 PM PDT by Aurelius
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To: Aurelius
Which means by no means that I agree with every thought of every poster on that site.
24 posted on 09/24/2001 5:13:45 PM PDT by Aurelius
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To: Aurelius, RjayneJ
LewRockwell.com is an oasis of sanity in a desert of madness.

Headzup! Quote of the day nomination here.

26 posted on 09/24/2001 5:21:36 PM PDT by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Rebeckie
Lew Rockwell, of whom I am a fan, or used to be, doesn't understand his own philosophy, libertarianism.

Defense of Liberty

27 posted on 09/24/2001 5:23:05 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex
Rockwell never recovered from his support for, first, Gene McCarthy and then Spiro Agnew. He is hardly the Libertarian he claims. Truth be told he is an anarchist. Truth really be told he is a gadfly anarchist with the following of 48 students at Auburn University.
28 posted on 09/24/2001 5:34:02 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: BigJim
The really scary part: NO EXPIRATION DATE.

EXECUTIVE ORDER NUMBER 01-261

Section 6. This Executive Order shall remain in full force and effect until the earlier of its revocation or June 30, 2003.

EXECUTIVE ORDER NUMBER 01-262

Section 4. I hereby order the Adjutant General to activate the Florida National Guard for the duration of this emergency, and I hereby place the National Guard under the direction of the State Coordinating Officer for the duration of this emergency.

29 posted on 09/24/2001 5:39:34 PM PDT by Hoosier Patriot
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To: Jim Robinson, all
Now FReepers need to be honest here. Back during Clinton's Balkins boondoggle (which remains ongoing at this time) a lot of us read, agreed with and posted material from LewRockwell.com. This was because we did not believe we had any business being involved in the Balkin's conflict and felt (in my case, still feel) that it was a total wag-the-dog exercise of Bubba's part.

Now, we also need to admit that there is and has been a great deal of anti-Arab, anti-Muslim, jingoistic rhetoric floating around in various posts in the forum these days.

A lot of that is understandable. We all need to vent anger on occassion.

But, while I don't accept and strongly disagree with the characterizations of FReepers made in this article, I think he is pointing out something that is significant. I am also a bit uneasy about how fast some of us have switched from sullen suspicion to lock-step approval of the Federal government here. It wasn't that long ago when FEMA was a bigger boogie-man on the forum than Saddam Hussien.

Yes this is a war. Yes, we need to support our Government and most definitely our Servicemembers as they fight it. But we also need to calm down and remember that we are not slaves or subjects to a crown, and that we have an obligation to keep a close eye on what our government is doing to ensure that it is acting in the best interests of the American republic. This is an obligation of citizenship that cannot be shirked at any time if the nation is to remain free.

30 posted on 09/24/2001 5:47:34 PM PDT by Ronin
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To: TexasKamaAina
>As a conservative, I am naturally wary of concentrations of power and the Homeland Security stuff scares me.

That's what bothers me most out of everything that has been said and done, that some are willing to give up a few more rights to feel safe. They may give up those rights to feel safe from an overseas or terrorist threat, but they become less safe and less protected from the government.

31 posted on 09/24/2001 5:52:51 PM PDT by texlok
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To: Rebeckie
...As I see it, FR is not a philosophy, it's politics. Politics, left or right, tend to bring out the sanctimonius. Right or wrong, politics will give us a passionate debate. Listen, read, think, calm down, try to respond with a little bit of philosophic tolerance...
32 posted on 09/24/2001 5:55:21 PM PDT by gargoyle
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To: Rebeckie
I have a friend whose wife once saw Lew Rockwell's picture right before they went to bed. Told me that he thought they would be "pitching woo", but his wife said she could not get "that creepy guy's face out of her mind"... As a result, they did not engage in "pitching woo"... I laugh every time I see Lew Rockwell's picture. He's a bit over the top and he also causes marital strife...
33 posted on 09/24/2001 6:11:30 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Ronin
we also need to admit that there is and has been a great deal of anti-Arab, anti-Muslim, jingoistic rhetoric floating around in various posts in the forum these days.

Lew needs to understand that unlike his site, we are a forum. I wonder what would have happened if he opened his site to comments from readers. In fact, I know that, because I posted from him at least once and participated in many threads that followed his articles. Lew is good in staking out some least popular position, usually with a libertarian bend, and making a case for it. On this war, the unpopular does not translate to the right.

34 posted on 09/24/2001 6:12:22 PM PDT by annalex
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan; Aurelius, RjayneJ
"LewRockwell.com is a cesspool of madness in meadow of sanity."

Headzup! Quote of the day nomination here.

35 posted on 09/24/2001 6:17:36 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Fury

Ideologue

37 posted on 09/24/2001 6:19:11 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
No, no. I did not want to "pitch woo" with my neighbor. It was him and his wife. But I will have a beer, after looking at that mug... LOL
38 posted on 09/24/2001 6:22:45 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Ronin
Damned rights this is war. And the FReepers have a right to be pissed! We were attacked! On our own soil! Thousands of our countrymen were killed by a foreign power. The bombed out buildings of NYC and the Pentagon are war zones. The enemy was aiming to knockout the Whitehouse, Airforce One, Camp David, the Capitol, the Pentagon our financial centers and who knows what else? And they came dangerously close to accomplishing their goal. Had they succeeded and killed our Pres, Vice Pres, leaders of Congress, our military chain of command and our financial centers, the USA would've completely collapsed. This is NOT the Balkins. This is America defending her own soil and her own blood. And we are still under attack. The terrorists can strike anywhere at anytime. No one will know where or when or with what they will attack next. The federal government clearly has the Constitutional responsibility and authority to defend the nation when it is attacked and that's exactly what President Bush and his people are doing. I am beginning to think that if the Libertarians do not have the intestinal fortitude to defend the nation when deliberately attacked by foreign powers, then we should thank God and pray that they will NEVER have sufficient numbers to get elected to any meaningful office.
39 posted on 09/24/2001 6:24:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: texlok
...You and Ronin speak for me, also...
40 posted on 09/24/2001 6:27:27 PM PDT by gargoyle
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