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Irrelevant questions? Hardly. You attempt to paint with a broad brush, pinning the actions of many on just a few. When you were called upon it, your attempt at broadbased slander became "irrelevant".

Secession was a desperate attempt through unconstitutional means to preserve slavery. Lincoln's magnificent performance of his constitutional duty to preserve the Union still drives those harboring anti-american ideologies insane with fury.

Magnificent performance of his constitutional duty? Pardon me:

AHHHH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

For somebody who "swore to uphold and defend the Constitution", he sure didn't have any problems violating it the same way his Generals violated the civilian populations in various Southern States.

You claim to be interested in the truth in history yet, you ignore all the massive evidence that all the founders maintained that the Union was perpetual and secession was illegal.

BZZZZZZ! Wrong! You, sir, are the one who is ignoring massive evidence to the contrary. Why not read the comments of those who ratified the Constitution or maybe many States delagates who put in writing their conditions for joining the "Union". The Union was not perpetual and we are not "people in the agrregate"; if it was it would not be called a "Union", it would be called a "Nation". Don't believe me? Try looking up Alexander Hamilton's remarks regarding this. Since he was one of the Federalists that was desperately trying to make another crown and parliment right here.

You ignore the treasonous actions of the secessionists taken in defense of the worst cause conceivable. A cause based entirely upon a theory of humanity which was identical with that of Hitler and the Nazis. The representatives of the Super Race had every right to hold the Sub humans in captivity and developed a Tyranny to deprive them of their rights. All the while screaming hysterically about the "tyranny" of Lincoln.

Treasonous? Apparently at least 5 New England States felt secession was a right in the early 19th century. Apparently many 19th century Republicans thought disunion was a necessity. If secession was "treason" maybe then, justshutupandtakeit, oh ye of the many college degrees, you can tell me of just one, just one, Confederate that was convicted of treason in a court of law. Just one will do. Also, nice attempt at trying to paint a paralell of Confederates and Nazi's. I have noticed that many anti-Southern posters on this forum try this exact same trick and it is an easily refutable one. If the CSA was supposed to be a "Super Race" maybe you can tell me why they were aligned with 5 Indian tribes, had a Jewish man who held three different high level positions in the Confederate Government, had blacks fighting side by side with their white counterparts (instead of segregated) long before the Federals did, and had Jews and Hispanics within their ranks. Or maybe you call them by some other racial epithet. I will readily admit the faults and warts of the CS Government; can you admit the same of the US Government of 1861-1865?

Your disregard for history and support of traitors make any remarks you have suspect.

Your support and deification of criminals without any forethought makes yours disreputable. What's the matter, did you not bother to serve your country while condemning someone else who is? Or maybe you would prefer to threaten me again.

Reading screwballs does not give you a good historical basis.

My reference material is not an analysis, it is the actual words spoken and recorded of those involved. If what you mean by "screwballs" relating to the Lincoln Administration, I would still have to disagree since it is their words; not anyone elses.

The greatest proof of the non-viability of the Slaveocracy in theory and practice was the crushing of it in less than three years.

Less than three years? Try again. The armies were in the field for over four years. Wishing the mighty Federal Army could beat a relative handful of farmers in less than three years does not make it so.

No society could be more corrupt than a Slaveocracy. It did not escape the wrath of God.

Slaveocracy? Which "slaveocracy" on the North American Continent were you referring to? You are deluding yourself if you truly believe we do not feel the effects of that war to this day. Wrath of God? Please. Lincoln was the one who decided to wage a war that got countless non-combattants killed (as a matter of policy instead of collatteraly), mocked God, denied Christ, waged war on the Church in both the North and South, and sat in services for expressed purpose of mocking the minister. Care to talk of the "Wrath of God"?

Hysterical posting of falsehoods is all one would expect from such as you. Complete lack of understanding of the nation's founding. Swallowing such bilge as "Hamilton wanting monoarchy", "Lincoln violated the constitution.." laughable but you probably think Jefferson was a great president too.

The Rebellion started 12/1861 was crushed by an army of farmers by 4/1865 i.e. less than four years as I said.

Laughable that the willingness of slavehholding indians to fight for the Slaveocracy is presented as an argument for its humanity.

There were no conditional ratifications with the right to secede reserved. That is a lie.

The Union was explicitly stated to be perpetual even under the Articles thus the "more perfect Union" would certainly include that except in the mind of an idiot.

Had N.E. attempted to secede in the early 1800s it would have been the home of traitors as well. Hamilton and the clearsighted people of that region opposed and prevented such folly. However, there was no clearsighted in the Slaveocracy in 1861 able to exercise significant leadership. Even such heroes demanding preservation of the Union such as Sam Houston were trampled by the idiot stampede.

There is no proof of significant numbers of Free Blacks fighting with the Rebs. that is another trumped up exaggeration of reality. Though Free Blacks could own slaves even if they couldn't vote. Judah Benjamin does not cause the racist nature of the regime to disappear. Who ever said that a Jew couldn't be a racist?

I am not interested in admissions of warts and faults all governments have those but not all governments are based on the preservation of slavery and that is the ONLY reason the Confederate government existed. It was created to perpetuate slavery and made no bones about it. All the leadership admitted it.

I never threatened you at all merely invited you to give your wisdom to the homies out on the West Side. I kindly offered to pick up the remains for a decent disposal kind-hearted gentleman that I am.

How did you come to the conclusion that I don't think we feel those effects today? Almost all the negative effects roundly condemned by conservatives are the result of the insane treason of the Slaveocrats: much bigger government, the distrust by Blacks of the State govenments and the trust by Blacks of the federal government. All this flowed from the insurrection.

Lincoln's greatness came from his love of this country and his understanding that it could not be split asunder or mankind as a whole would lose. Southern independence would have led it deeper into depravity and anti-human ideologies. Thanks to Lincoln's sacrifice and that of the Union soldiers Freedom's Beacon was not extinguished by racist treason.