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China ready to deploy its first mobile ICBMs
Washington Times ^
| 9/06/01
| Bill Gertz
Posted on 09/05/2001 10:30:33 PM PDT by kattracks
Edited on 07/12/2004 3:46:21 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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China will soon deploy its first road-mobile intercontinental ballistic missiles, a new long-range strategic weapon whose predicted range includes the western United States, The Washington Times has learned.
U.S. intelligence agencies detected the Chinese military's formation of the first missile units equipped with Dong Feng-31 missiles in July, and the Pentagon believes the first missiles will be fielded by the end of the year. Dong Feng means "East Wind" in Chinese.
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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: billgertz; china; dongfeng; icbm; missiles
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To: Snow Bunny
...Still ONLY 18 ICBM's pointed at the Good Ol' USA...?
To: kattracks
But...but...China is not a threat to us! Besides a missle defense system will never work! (/sarcasm)
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posted on
09/06/2001 6:52:46 PM PDT
by
AMERIKA
To: Snow Bunny
BunnyBumpBackatcha...MUD
To: caddie
Don't forget the treasonous (or nit-witted, choose one) liberal American physicists who hire and train Chinese communist grad students and post-docs in cutting edge research, including weapons research, so they can go home and make weapons like these.
Something tells me you don't know what the hell you're talking about. I've worked with a few Chinese grad students and post-docs. None of them wanted to nuke the U.S. or help in those efforts. Most wanted to work here. If they do sensitive research, they are subject to a security check just like all those red-blooded Americans out there. I've never met an American physics professor who would refuse to work with a grad student because of his nationality, whether that grad student was Iraqi or Chinese or Russian. There may be a lot of liberal physicists out there, but fortunately they're not as bone headed as people like yourself.
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posted on
09/06/2001 7:24:36 PM PDT
by
dr_who
To: Snow Bunny
I agree the record needs to be set strraight. Who does CBS think they are fooling? We got ComChi's missles pointed at us from all directions.
To: Snow Bunny
And wilt they shall!
To: Snow Bunny
I bump for truth. Not lies!
To: Snow Bunny
I bump for truth. Not lies!
To: ChaseR
bump!
To: GretchenEE
Thanks for the heads up!
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To: dr_who
You're just naive, dude.
Of course they are nice guys, personally, the Chinese.
They don't wear t-shirts saying things like, "I am actually a spy working as a grad student in the United States." Maybe they should, so people like you could figure it out.
But just the same, they go home and transfer incredible amounts of sensitive technology to the ChiComs.
Who do you think pays their "scholarships" here in the USA? GM? NSF? NIH?
Nope, a ton of them are funded by the Chinese government.
So, unscrupulous, treasonous, or boneheaded physicists, chemists, etc., have a great incentive to use them as quasi-slave labor.
Knew a lot of guys doing that years ago.
And the reason they do it, with impunity, is because of the naivete of people like you, who think there's nothing wrong with giving away the farm to a hostile nation.
Just so you can sleep well, get on Cal Tech's (the university that runs the Jet Propulsion Laboratory) website and look at a streaming video of their graduating class.
Tons of Chinese, all trained in the state of the art in physics, biology, chemistry and who knows what else relevant to weapons manufacture.
Plus, the left has you buying the notion that it is racism that makes people like me suspicious.
That sort of thinking brings us boatloads of Chinese postdocs, as well as John Huang, and that sort of thing.
So, if you endorse this sort of wholesale transfer of sensitive technology to the hostile Chinese, and feel that it is innocent, then you are about as naive as it gets.
The Chinese are grateful for the incredible stupidity of the many American academicians who share your opinions.
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posted on
09/07/2001 9:25:24 AM PDT
by
caddie
To: Black Jade
"....when you call someone who is obviously an ANTI-Communist a "Communist synpathizer." NUTS!
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posted on
09/07/2001 9:58:56 AM PDT
by
ChaseR
To: Cavalry, ALOHA RONNIE
bttt
75
posted on
09/07/2001 10:02:15 AM PDT
by
ChaseR
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To: caddie
You're just naive, dude.
Only naive in thinking that you're capable of reason.
They don't wear t-shirts saying things like, "I am actually a spy working as a grad student in the United States." Maybe they should, so people like you could figure it out.
Going by the numbers, I'd say there are more "true blue" agents with American citizenship working in very sensitive positions in our own government. Read the newpapers once in a while.
But just the same, they go home and transfer incredible amounts of sensitive technology to the ChiComs.
Who do you think pays their "scholarships" here in the USA? GM? NSF? NIH? Nope, a ton of them are funded by the Chinese government.
Foreign governments have been known to fund their own grad students. Whoopidy do. I suppose they're all spies with a couple of "turf grass management" certificate candidates just to throw us off. No doubt the Indonesian students are really studying how to make planes to bomb the united states and Pakistani textile majors are studying how to make parachutes. No doubt the Chinese government builds sewers back in China strictly because they could double as bunkers in the event of a war. Of course, a ton of these grad students never go back to their home country, and I bet that makes you soooo mad.
So, unscrupulous, treasonous, or boneheaded physicists, chemists, etc., have a great incentive to use them as quasi-slave labor.
Ooh, you sound so convincingly sympathetic to their "plight". I'm really impressed. I figure these Chinese grad students would go home if they didn't prefer the situation they were in, however.
As for all those boneheaded sponsors, they shouldn't be given the task of being security investigators ( or researchers for that matter) if they're boneheads. But I wouldn't blame them for taking on competent, well funded students.
And the reason they do it, with impunity, is because of the naivete of people like you,
What that I think has absolutely nothing to do with what any professors do with themselves or with other people. It's (traditionally) been a free country, even if some are cowed by political correctness and other movements of stupid people in large groups. And I usually don't do anything with impunity if there isn't a law against doing it.
who think there's nothing wrong with giving away the farm to a hostile nation.
I am not America, just as they are not China.
Tons of Chinese, all trained in the state of the art in physics, biology, chemistry and who knows what else relevant to weapons manufacture.
The technology for making nuclear explosives is over a half century old. The Chinese have had nukes for a while. Practically anyone can create biological weapons. The Chinese invented gun powder. There are universities in China, and the Chinese can read the same academic journals that Americans, Germans, Russians, and even Frenchmen can read, unless the Chinese government doesn't allow them to. If every kind of research was "sensitive", I expect that everyone would have to undergo a security clearance before they opened a book for the first time. But I don't think that would be practical. If formerly secured government-owned labs have been handed over to universities without being "cleaned" or properly regulated, then the government should be held responsible. Trying to keep foreign countries ignorant is a hopelessly naive policy. The world is a big place. Deal with it.
That sort of thinking brings us boatloads of Chinese postdocs, as well as John Huang, and that sort of thing.
The fact that we're a rich, powerful, technologically advanced country brings boatloads of postdocs from all over the place. Money brings us people like John Huang. Surprised?
So, if you endorse this sort of wholesale transfer of sensitive technology to the hostile Chinese, and feel that it is innocent, then you are about as naive as it gets.
I don't endose the wholesale transfer of sensitive technology and I don't endorse you.
Plus, the left has you buying the notion that it is racism that makes people like me suspicious.
Racist? I don't think I said "racist". Xenophobic and eager to find scapegoats for your own problems perhaps. I've found that I can draw my own conclusions based on what I see and hear. Some may find that hard to do, but that's not my problem.
The Chinese are grateful for the incredible stupidity of the many American academicians who share your opinions.
The Left in this country is grateful for the kneejerk stupidity of people like yourself for helping them misrepresent conservatism.
Let me say that I'm glad you're so careful in picking out the traitors in our country. If you had been angry about American merchants, HR managers, politicians, and consumers as well, I suppose they'd all be better off in jail.
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posted on
09/08/2001 6:29:26 PM PDT
by
dr_who
To: Black Jade
"....whether you want to acknowledge it or not."
that's nice...now bttt.
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posted on
09/09/2001 12:47:59 PM PDT
by
ChaseR
To: lowbridge, SnwBunny, Kathleen, KLT, Bigg Red
bttt
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posted on
09/09/2001 12:49:30 PM PDT
by
ChaseR
To: all
bttt
80
posted on
09/09/2001 12:52:59 PM PDT
by
ChaseR
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