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Heart Attack Patient Dies In ER Waiting Room- Ruled a Homicide
Associated Press ^ | 9/16/06 | 60 Gunner

Posted on 09/16/2006 9:25:30 PM PDT by 60Gunner

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To: metmom
You mean above the bottom of the ribcage (within it) or up by the shoulders? I mean either. From the bottom of the ribcage up. Even into the back.
121 posted on 09/16/2006 11:16:26 PM PDT by 60Gunner (Leftism: preoperational egocentrism with a gun)
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To: NinoFan

This nurse losing her license is probably warranted. Facing criminal charges is absurd. There is no evidence of any malicious intent; unless you've never made a serious mistake in your job, I wouldn't throw the first stone. Maybe the nurse misunderstood her symptom descriptions, maybe she just made a big mistake and should lose her license and be held civilly liable. But the moment you start throwing medical professionals in jail for messing up (even for serious mistakes) you're going to radically change the health care system and you won't like how it ends up.


122 posted on 09/16/2006 11:16:36 PM PDT by rebelyell7
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To: 60Gunner

BTTT


123 posted on 09/16/2006 11:17:01 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: FairOpinion

Thank you for the info. I am really quite new to this aspect of posting. Let me know if I goof!


124 posted on 09/16/2006 11:17:21 PM PDT by 60Gunner (Leftism: preoperational egocentrism with a gun)
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To: politicalwit

Hopefully one person will read this and say screw it Im calling it in. People should not die because of poor self inflicted decision.


125 posted on 09/16/2006 11:19:38 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: scott7278

Your question requires a much more involved answer than I can give right now. I will post a more thorough answer tomorrow evening. I have to hit the sack- I am working tomorrow!


126 posted on 09/16/2006 11:19:43 PM PDT by 60Gunner (Leftism: preoperational egocentrism with a gun)
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To: 60Gunner

Okay, guys. I have to hit the sack. I'm on tomorrow! Take care of yourselves!


127 posted on 09/16/2006 11:21:22 PM PDT by 60Gunner (Leftism: preoperational egocentrism with a gun)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Doin jes fine now. You?


128 posted on 09/16/2006 11:21:38 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: 60Gunner

Thank you!


129 posted on 09/16/2006 11:22:12 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: 60Gunner

I am alive today after a full scale cardiac arrest in 1999

My thanks and prayers to ambulance people, paramedics, ER folks , Doctors and all the support folks


Thank you all so much


130 posted on 09/16/2006 11:22:27 PM PDT by woofie
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To: rebelyell7

Actually, I should add that I'm kind of surprised at people's experiences at not getting enzymes run. Around here most of the ED providers are paranoid about malpractice and will run enzymes on you at the drop of a hat so as not to get sued that .1% of the time it was a MI with nonstandard presentation. It's all about defensive medicine.


131 posted on 09/16/2006 11:22:33 PM PDT by rebelyell7
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To: 60Gunner

Four instances that I'm aware of, two that I can be sure are Torsades due to the fact that I was wearing an event monitor at the time (those instances were very close together), and two that were very similar and thus likely to have been Torsades but one can never be sure. All were out of the hospital and all were self-correcting. That's the reason I feel so blessed. It was my blackouts that really started to get my doctor to realize that something was up. I had gone in repeatedly in the weeks before to my doctor with sharp and short chest pains and a productive cough. He pretty much seemed to think "no biggie" even after my first blackout until he got the call from the monitoring service that "Ninofan" had sent in two recordings that showed the ominous rhythm that is Torsades. Of course he sent me to the hospital immediately. They did testing and discovered the cause. They put me on the usual ACE inhibitor, beat blocker, and dieuretc, and since only a small part of my heart had suffered actual damage from the virus (as opposed to inflammation), my EF is good and my risk now of SCD is pretty small.


132 posted on 09/16/2006 11:23:30 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Rte66

Glad it cooled off,,;0)


133 posted on 09/16/2006 11:24:04 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 60Gunner
I have a heart condition which I take medication for and a couple years ago I had chest pain that continued for several days. I was experiencing unusual family stress and I called my cardiologist and he asked me to go the emergency room. Although I felt it probably was not necessary, I followed my doctors advice.

I was treated terribly once I was taken back to see a doctor. He made me feel so bad, that I almost left in the middle of his evaluation and treatment. I told him I had been a lot of stress and that I felt that my chest pain was probably nothing. I had never been to an emergency room before. However, he implied that I was a overacting and probably a hypochrondiac. I told him that the only reason I was there was because my heart doctor told me to come there. He gave me a slight sedative and sent me home. The bottom line is that now I feel that no matter what happens I will not go to an emergency room because of that doctor.

134 posted on 09/16/2006 11:26:16 PM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents or anyone just passing through)
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To: rebelyell7

Did you read the response that one poster gave about coroner's juries? Apparently these "charges" aren't necessarily criminal charges, but this is just the first step to a lawsuit. It's somewhat confusing and I'm going to have to read up more on it


135 posted on 09/16/2006 11:27:14 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Rte66

Check and find out if you have free medical places, where they can check you out.

In Los Angeles there is County Hospital, which sees people with no insurance for free. It's a long wait, but it's better, than ignoring potentially serious symptoms and not seeing a doctor. You should find out if they have similar places in your area.


136 posted on 09/16/2006 11:28:58 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: 60Gunner

In both cases I described, I was able to overcome the feeling simply by resting. There is a difference between the two, and I'm simply not able to find the right words to describe it. It might have to do with recovery time v.s. endurance. I understand the distinction you are making with a heart attack, in that resting does not alleviate the craving for air or oxygen. The symptom is persistent.


137 posted on 09/16/2006 11:30:45 PM PDT by kylaka
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

The weather or the pig?


138 posted on 09/16/2006 11:33:07 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: 60Gunner

Good article.


139 posted on 09/16/2006 11:34:14 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Vicki

"I was treated terribly once I was taken back to see a doctor. "

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I have heard that from a lot of people. Some doctors and articles tell people to NOT ignore symptoms, which could potentially be serious and to go to the ER, but the doctors there VERY often treat the patients as if they were idiots and just showed up there, because they were bored and wanted attention.

But that shouldn't dissuade you from going to the ER, if you think you need to. If you have a choice, you might try a different hospital, and if you can, have a healthy person go with you, who can be your advocate and fight for you, and demand that the doctors perform the test to confirm or rule out some serious possibilities.


140 posted on 09/16/2006 11:34:21 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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