International Law and the Nation-State at the U.N.: A Guide for U.S. Policymakers

The Heritage Foundation ^ | August 18, 2006 | Lee A. Casey and David B. Rivkin, Jr.

[hedgetrimmer]

Sovereignty ... is the right of the American people, and of all peoples, to govern themselves in accordance with their own institutions and by their own consent.

As an independent and sovereign state, the United States is bound by international law, and it must especially respect its treaty obligations.

We have a right to govern ourselves, yet we are bound by international law?

Should the Heritage Foundation be instructing our elected officials on this matter, or is this yet another way to wield undue influence over our politicians?

[hedgetrimmer]

For your research.

[Edgerunner]

Then this body of "Internationals" is gonna have to raise an army and invade every country in the world to achieve their goal. They won't like the greeting most nations would give them...

[Bigh4u2]

"They readily accepted that, as an independent sovereign, the United States was bound by international law to the same extent as were the other “powers of the earth.” This much was made clear by the Declaration of Independence itself, which explained why it had become “necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them.”"

Total BS!

The 'law of nature(God)' and the 'law of man' are too entirely different things.


Talk about reaching!

[hedgetrimmer]

Remember, this baloney is being distributed to our lawmakers as a 'guide'. Why is the heritage foundation allowed to 'guide' our policymakers? That is the job of citizens and constitutents.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

In the proud Freeper tradition of posting without reading I will say that I saw, upon a brief scan, nothing objectionable. Our relations with other countries should be the same as the founders envisioned the relationship between the state and the federal government, a contract (treaties on an international basis) among equals which can be dissolved when one or the other violates it.

The main problem began in the early '20s with the growing influence of Communism in this country. We are seeing the harvest of the seeds sown then.

[1rudeboy]

"Why is the [H]eritage [F]oundation allowed to 'guide' our policymakers?"

Your papers, please. [pun intended]

The views expressed here are [Lee A. Casey and David B. Rivkin's] own. This paper is one of a series prepared as part of the Freedom Project of the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom at The Heritage Foundation.

[RightWhale]

an advanced and determined movement

There has been a Global Society movement for a century and a half, as there has been Marxism. These are not necessarily related even though many follow both as if they are the same. There is also the Global Civil Society movement, which is something yet again. There is also a weird international or (better) anational movement with no coherent leadership that shows up spontaneously whenever the economic summits or bilderburgers take place. The anarchy of these spontaneous demonstrations is counter to law and international law, whatever the latter might be if anything.

[1rudeboy]

Check this out. Not content to post leftist drivel, our colleague hedgetrimmer has turned her attention to the nefarious people at Heritage.

[Toddsterpatriot]

Truly a Paul Ross level post.

[1rudeboy]

I skimmed it as well. Looks fairly comprehensive, and not that sinister . . . unless the word "international" makes one break out in hives.

[Bigh4u2]

"In refusing to accept either the interpretation of international law adopted by other states or the authority of international institutions claiming the right to adjudicate international law claims, the United States is not violating its interna­tional obligations or seeking “impunity.” It is merely exercising its indisputable rights as an independent sovereign."

In this context you should be concerned.

Luckily, at least for the most part, the Judiciary isn't biting.

[1rudeboy]

I should be concerned because the U.S. is asserting its sovereignty? How?

[hedgetrimmer]

the nefarious people at Heritage

Good one! Mind if I use it?

[1rudeboy]

Be my guest, although I should warn you that this is a conservative website. You tend to forget.

[Bigh4u2]

"the interpretation of international law adopted by other states or the authority of international institutions claiming the right to adjudicate international law claims,"

Not the U.S. asserting it's sovereignty.

The fact that some in the Judiciary aren't should be the concern.

[hedgetrimmer]

You said it, not me.

[Little Ray]

How many carrier groups and divisions can "International Law" field?

[1rudeboy]

Umm . . . yeah. You going anywhere with this, or are we taking the usual circuitous route? LOL

[hedgetrimmer]

Let's see, Kosovo is a UN protectorate.

The USS Enterprise, USS Theodore Roosevelt, and USS Kearsarge and land-based naval aircraft flew thousands of combat sorties as part of the air campaign.

CARRIER AIR WING SEVEN traveled to Aviano Air Base in Italy to participate in Operation ALLIED FORCE, returning home in July after completing 570 missions and over 2,400 flight hours over Kosovo.


Task Force Falcon, Texas National Guard, will join fellow 36th Infantry Division troops, along with 40th ID, in Jan. 2006 . The Soldiers will be replacing nearly 1,700 National Guard Soldiers from California (40th Infantry Division), Kansas (1st Battalion, 635th Armor; 35th Military Police, and Detachment 1, 24th Medical Company – Air Ambulance) and Pennsylvania (Company C, 1-104th Aviation; 628th Military Intelligence Battalion; and 928th Finance Battalion

Thats scratching the surface. Then there was/is Haiti.