Nobody is disputing the value of celibacy for those who are called to it and embrace it. The issue is whether the Church should continue to impose mandatory celibacy on every Catholic man who presents himself for the priesthood.
My own view is that, were it put to a vote among the world's bishops, the discipline would be changed.
"The idea that men, young men of twenty say,..take a vow of celibacy. That they will never get married. And that they can keep that without getting twisted and psychologically moronic and finally ending up in pedophilia or sadism or in some twisted psychology. That is the normal attitude towards priests today. So the idea of Roman Catholic celibacy is something that is utterly alien to the mind.
Why? Because the idea of priesthood is. And this is where the great lack in teaching in seminaries and in the Catholic populace lies." Fr. Martin
Maybe. But fortunately the Vicar of Christ is rather less eager to jettison centuries of tradition to appease the devotees of the Sexual Revolution.
It was probably a nervous laugh. It's not the first time I've quoted him and heard that kind of reply. The laughing is always hollow. Mozart laughed at Muzio Clementi prior to a musical competitioin between them, it did him no good and Mozart got his tail kicked in. You could learn a lot from Malachi Martin, about life and particularly about the Catholic faith. From your posts, you've indicated that you are sadly lacking in understanding what the Catholic Faith actually means.
The man was relieved of his vows as a Jesuit so he could become a professional gadfly and write doom-and-gloom fictions about the Church. He passed himself off as a Vatican insider who related stories about satanic rituals in the Vatican and peddled all kinds of conspiracies (among them that JPI was murdered).
The man asked, and was granted to be relieved of his vows to the Jesuits because the liberal disaster in the post conciliar era was about to blow up. He was a Vatican Insider, that is indisputable. It's clear that you know nothing about Fr. Martin except the lies and exaggerations that you've been told to believe by weak minded stooges like Keating. (who in my opinion is a charlatan, a lousy apologist and a dishonest businessman) I have first editions of his books from the early 70's he made plenty of predictions in them. He was correct then, He was correct in the 80's and he was correct in the 90's. He was the only person in the entire world who in print predicted the election of John Paul I. Only a German newspaper printed it. The Americans didn't want to take a chance on writing about an unknown like Luciani.
When asked if he thought JPI was assassinated he said it was reasonable to suppose it, but it was useless to try and prove it because of the attitude in Rome about such issues. Considering how many assassinations and attempts were made in the 5 year span before and after JPI it is quite reasonable.
Nobody is disputing the value of celibacy for those who are called to it and embrace it. The issue is whether the Church should continue to impose mandatory celibacy on every Catholic man who presents himself for the priesthood.
You're disputing the value of celibacy for the preisthood. Here's another example where Man is the big cheese and God is left with the scraps from the table. God CALLS men to the priesthood. They don't present themselves, "I want to be a priest, but I want sex, I want to smoke pot, and I want to believe and preach what I want to believe and preach." That's called Protestantism.
My own view is that, were it put to a vote among the world's bishops, the discipline would be changed.
I'm sure if we put the truth of 2+2=4 to a vote among the world's bishops, the answer would be changed. Here's a bit of information the world's bishops are in general, intellectually confused, theologically ignorant, morally bankrupt, politically naive and have reduced the Church organization to something that reeks of evil, stupidity and ignores God and worships Man instead.
Another point to make; The Eastern priests being married is an abuse that has been tolerated by the Holy See for much too long. There is a reason that they are rather ghettoed rites in the Church. Their priests are handicapped by marriages from utilizing the full effects of the marriage of the priest to the Church.
Your personal opinion of the late Fr. Malachi Martin, his life, and writings ntowithstanding, you cannot say anything derogatory in regard to him and the issue of celibacy. He retained his vow of celibacy for the rest of his life, and remained a priest, though no longer a member of the Jesuit order. That much we know to be true.
In regard to his "doom and gloom" fictions - kindly prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that he was wrong. You may dislike him or his writings - but you cannot positively dispute what he said.