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Kerry, Cambodia, Nicaragua and the War on Global Terrorism
mattdono ^
| August 17, 2004
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Posted on 08/17/2004 11:57:55 AM PDT by mattdono
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To: mattdono
A very thoughtful piece, Matt. You've established why Kerry's "little white lies" are more substantive than they're being treated. Both then...and now.
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posted on
08/17/2004 6:41:37 PM PDT
by
okie01
(The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
To: okie01
Thanks, okie. I have re-read it a few times and picked out some things that I might have worded differently, but I hoped it got the point across.
About the "white lies"...did you ever notice that this is the only thing that Kerry's defenders will address?
It is part and parcel of their incessant focus on splitting hairs and usage of other logical fallacies in presenting their side.
For instance, the entire (and I mean ENTIRE) Kerry crowd arguement is based on a preposition. It is presented in several different ways, but their arguement lies on a grammatical "hinge".
| You CAN criticize John Kerry's Vietnam service if you... |
| |
| » served under John Kerry; or |
| » served on the same boat as John Kerry |
| |
| You CAN NOT criticize John Kerry's Vietnam service if you... |
| |
| » served around John Kerry; or |
| » served on another boat around John Kerry |
| |
These rules, convienently, carry the "Steve Gardner" exclusion because Gardner served both under John Kerry and on the same boat as John Kerry, but apparently his opinion doesn't count.
And, perhaps ironically, Mr. Gardner isn't criticizing John Kerry's Vietnam record; he is merely extrapolating his experience during Vietnam and stating an opinion about Kerry's fitness to serve as commander-in-chief. His opinion is Kerry is unfit.
It is just more evidence of the "Clintonization" of the demoCRAP party (hat tip:
Rush Limbaugh).
Frankly, "normal" people can not have a debate when the parsing of words to this degree.
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posted on
08/17/2004 7:16:15 PM PDT
by
mattdono
([mattdono to John Kerry]: I voted for you...right before I voted against you.)
To: mattdono
Frankly, "normal" people can not have a debate when the parsing of words to this degree. Nor can you have a debate when one side will never accept fault for any of their own actions -- individually or collectively.
It makes for the same kind of "debate" parents have with their juvenile children.
In this connection, isn't it interesting how often the left refers to Republicans as "the daddy party"?
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posted on
08/17/2004 7:28:09 PM PDT
by
okie01
(The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
To: okie01
In this connection, isn't it interesting how often the left refers to Republicans as "the daddy party" Interesting and cogent point.
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posted on
08/17/2004 7:40:05 PM PDT
by
mattdono
([mattdono to John Kerry]: I voted for you...right before I voted against you.)
To: okie01
From a NY Times story just posted (
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1193632/posts).
Last paragraph in the piece...the power of the preposition at work again...
The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth has provided affidavits for the men making claims against Mr. Kerry in its first and last advertisement. But while some of the men served near Mr. Kerry's Swift boat, none in the advertisement served on it.
I can't make this stuff up, I swear
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posted on
08/17/2004 8:10:21 PM PDT
by
mattdono
([mattdono to John Kerry]: I voted for you...right before I voted against you.)
To: mattdono
I can't make this stuff up, I swear The media's deployment of these prepositions suggests either:
a. They are ignorant of the size of Swift boats, thinking them larger and more self-contained -- e.g., like destroyers.
b. Or they are parroting the Kerry campaign talking points, thus participating in the lie.
Of course, it could be both...
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posted on
08/17/2004 8:25:36 PM PDT
by
okie01
(The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
To: MeekOneGOP; ntnychik; devolve; Smartass; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo
LOL, and they're all watery and squiggley from their efforts.
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posted on
08/17/2004 8:49:44 PM PDT
by
potlatch
(Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
To: okie01
Actually (and sadly), I think it is just answer b.
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posted on
08/17/2004 8:53:06 PM PDT
by
mattdono
([mattdono to John Kerry]: I voted for you...right before I voted against you.)
To: potlatch
GOOD ONE...Gurgle, gurgle.
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posted on
08/17/2004 8:55:27 PM PDT
by
Smartass
( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
To: Smartass
LOL, I love that effect. There is a 'ribbon' one that is good too, I just love gifs!
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posted on
08/17/2004 9:01:29 PM PDT
by
potlatch
(Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
To: potlatch; MeekOneGOP; Smartass; ntnychik; nopardons; devolve; Grampa Dave; Sofa King; Happy2BMe; ...
Daniel Ortega's daughter accused him of serially sexually abusing her from her eleventh year.
John F. Kerry, always for the enemy: always.
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posted on
08/17/2004 9:37:33 PM PDT
by
PhilDragoo
(Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
To: PhilDragoo
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posted on
08/17/2004 9:45:55 PM PDT
by
potlatch
(Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
To: PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Happy2BMe; Boazo; OXENinFLA; Grampa Dave; ...
"Hanoi John" is going to turn out to be the CAMBODIAN IDIOT!
THANKS FOR 
THE PING!
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posted on
08/17/2004 9:46:58 PM PDT
by
Smartass
( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
To: timeislightislife; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; potlatch; ntnychik; onyx; dixiechick2000; ...
Learn or use punctuation and capitalization and logic and truth before posting on Free Republic
Your posts are a tedious and unreadable as well as lacking in knowledge and truth and maturity.
FR signup: July 2004
I have had dogs and horses with more sense.
KERRY & POW
FAMILIES 1971
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posted on
08/18/2004 2:24:56 AM PDT
by
devolve
(TERRY KERRY: http://pro.lookingat.us/ShoveIt.html http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryCambodia.html)
To: potlatch
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posted on
08/18/2004 2:44:33 AM PDT
by
devolve
(TERRY KERRY: http://pro.lookingat.us/ShoveIt.html http://pro.lookingat.us/KerryCambodia.html)
To: potlatch
hahaha! Very good! I like it. :^)
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posted on
08/18/2004 6:00:01 AM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
To: mattdono
To: DallasMike
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posted on
08/18/2004 8:31:07 PM PDT
by
mattdono
([mattdono to John Kerry]: I voted for you...right before I voted against you.)
To: devolve
Ahaaaaaaa! High praise from you!! You liked that one huh??
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posted on
08/18/2004 8:56:39 PM PDT
by
potlatch
(Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
To: MeekOneGOP
Thanks Meek! One of my sucessfull endeavours!!
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posted on
08/18/2004 8:58:11 PM PDT
by
potlatch
(Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain consciousness.)
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