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Smoker's saliva a 'cocktail of chemicals'
Yahoo ^ | 06/02/04 | Reuters

Posted on 06/02/2004 4:43:14 AM PDT by Colosis

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To: Mears

Check yours!!!!


841 posted on 06/04/2004 4:30:28 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy has killed more people than all SHS combined.)
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To: VRWC_minion
What would you do with your last $5 ?

Oh, gosh, let me see....well, 50 cents right off the bat goes to the tithe, a blanket at Good Will would be a dollar or two, and the rest on food.

Why?

842 posted on 06/04/2004 5:29:25 PM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: Judith Anne

Bravo!!! Bravo!!!!

I'm not one to be sacreligious - but some of the sanctimonious pontificating on this thread has been positively appalling to me.

I have my relationship with God, I don't need scripture quoted AT me by those I don't know. I also know I do not care to associate with those who find it necessary to do so.


843 posted on 06/04/2004 6:17:32 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy has killed more people than all SHS combined.)
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To: takenoprisoner

Of course, it happens to most anyone, but a large percentage of smokers seem to get lung problems more often.


844 posted on 06/04/2004 7:23:59 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: Gabz
are you willing to see the government compensate them for that lost revenue and then seek the lost tax revenue from other sources?

Yes, otherwise there is no way to stop the takeovers. If nonsmokers had to pay cold hard cash, they would think twice.

845 posted on 06/04/2004 7:29:40 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Judith Anne
Why?

Because smokers spend an increasing percentage of their income as income levels decrease. This means smokers tend to give up other things before giving uop cigs. In particular, you claim you would give up smoking if you didn't have the cash. That is unussual for a smoker.

846 posted on 06/04/2004 7:33:40 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Paulus Invictus

"Of course, it happens to most anyone, but a large percentage of smokers seem to get lung problems more often."

Yea well, I figure if smoking takes me out early I will be lucky. I've been to nursing homes to see folks who took care of themselves...and so, I haven't the least desire to take care of myself that I might join them in that condition. Fact is, I'd rather go sooner than later. Can this be my personal choice or is it yours?


847 posted on 06/04/2004 7:41:26 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (illegally posting on an expired tag)
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To: VRWC_minion

Do you have any idea how you sound, when you make one of those pronouncements? Smokers aren't bugs under your personal microscope, so you can study our nasty little habits and make generalizations and edicts. We are children of God, saved by the grace and mercy of Christ, to do His will as He may make it known to us. YOU have no authority here.

You are so offensive. You owe us an apology.


848 posted on 06/04/2004 8:25:31 PM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: Judith Anne

You should see what the tithes have built in my community. It's a mammoth monstrous building costing millions. Sadly I don't see it as dedicated to God. I see it as tithes wasted that could have been better spent on charity to the world's poor and needy.

Course, that's just me...and there's probably something wrong with me for thinking that way.

There's absolutley nothing wrong with tithing so long as it goes to God's work...just be sure it does.


849 posted on 06/04/2004 8:40:01 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (illegally posting on an expired tag)
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To: takenoprisoner

You still have that, "Humbler than thou" problem, I see...


850 posted on 06/04/2004 8:57:00 PM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: Judith Anne

"You still have that, "Humbler than thou" problem, I see..."

I'm no Jesus for sure, since Jesus was much more humble than me...


851 posted on 06/04/2004 9:17:02 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (illegally posting on an expired tag)
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To: Judith Anne
We are children of God, saved by the grace and mercy of Christ, to do His will as He may make it known to us

Of course you are. Are you saying that it is God's will that smokers shall be forever addicted to cigarettes, be constantly coughing up phlem in the morning, smell like an old dirty ashtray and die prematurely from smoking illnesses ? I don't think those are God's will for his children, do you ?

852 posted on 06/05/2004 4:16:15 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion

Finally, something we can agree upon.


853 posted on 06/05/2004 5:37:50 AM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy has killed more people than all SHS combined.)
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To: VRWC_minion
"Of course you are. Are you saying that it is God's will that smokers shall be forever addicted to cigarettes, be constantly coughing up phlem in the morning, smell like an old dirty ashtray and die prematurely from smoking illnesses ? I don't think those are God's will for his children, do you ?

852 posted on 06/05/2004 4:16:15 AM PDT by VRWC_minion

How do the scriptures read? Hmmmmm....let's see...

"Go ye therefore and boss everybody around, baptizing them in criticism and calling them names, making up regulations about how they can use their property. and deciding how they can live there lives, and lo, act like you think you are their boss always, until you intimidate anyone you can." ----VRWC_minion 15:10-11

Do I have that right?

Or is it "Lo, I shall wipe away every cigarette from their mouth..." That's another nice one.

I know! I know! "Blessed are the non-smokers, for they shall bully the smokers. Blessed are the regulation passers, for they shall tell people how to use their own property."

That's how YOUR Bible reads, isn't it?

854 posted on 06/05/2004 6:27:57 AM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: Judith Anne
witness cinFLA saying it had answered the obesity/smoking question, when in fact, it had not.

Witness Judith bearing false witness. Again.

855 posted on 06/05/2004 2:26:20 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Judith Anne
I don't want to spend any more time with these anti-smoking folks, as far as I'm concerned, all they want to do is control people. If you'll notice, most of the anti-smoking regulations and elevated taxes are NOT voted on by the people who do the electing...they're just enacted by city councils...

Right. Don't you believe in representative government? That was what our country was founded on.

856 posted on 06/05/2004 2:27:55 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA

President Ronald Reagan just died. Go bother somebody else, I'm busy grieving.


857 posted on 06/05/2004 2:30:36 PM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: Judith Anne

Classic denial that is used by addicts. Instead of addressing the comments I actually made, you create strawmen.


858 posted on 06/05/2004 8:10:46 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: takenoprisoner

Nope, I have no "early" death wish. I like it here and enjoy my life in spite of temporary health problems, none of which is linked to smoking. I have outlived my dad and step-mother by several years now and want to continue. I often wonder if they regretted that their lives were cut short in their early 60's after years of anguish and pain from lung and heart diseases. They missed seeing their grand kids.


859 posted on 06/06/2004 6:43:50 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: cinFLA
Isn't this tyranny of the majority suppressing the rights of a minor?

A minor, by definition is someone who lacks the functioning capabilities of an adult. There is no tyranny when rights are constitutionally abridged as, say, with a felon -- or a minor.

What reason makes it ok to allow a person born one day before another to be able to buy alchohol?

If you have a better method of separating minors from adults, by all means propose it now.

860 posted on 06/06/2004 12:58:00 PM PDT by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem..)
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