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Celebrating World No Tobacco Day
FORCES.ORG ^ | May 31, 2004 | FORCES

Posted on 05/31/2004 9:39:17 AM PDT by Gabz

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To: eXe

It is utterly ridiculous and has gotten totally out of hand.

Fortunately more and more people, smokers and non-smokers alike are starting to wake up and realize just what is going on.


61 posted on 05/31/2004 11:01:20 AM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy has killed more people than all SHS combined.)
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To: Gabz
Her attitude is that it is her business and she will choose her clientele by market demands, not government edict.

The answer to the whole discussion appears so simple to me, as to you also, I assume. : )

At the same time, the perceived popularity of rhetoric at the cost of true conviction by the populous as a whole, can lead one to frustration.

62 posted on 05/31/2004 11:03:53 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: johnb838

Now that is a really great idea, I think I'll try that at one of the LA beaches that baned smoking


63 posted on 05/31/2004 11:04:04 AM PDT by markman46
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To: Gabz

On my way home from my Dad's house, I'll be celebrating no tobacco day with a cigar! Unfortunatly, I left my good ones at home.


64 posted on 05/31/2004 11:06:11 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America being passive. They were wrong.” - Reagan)
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To: Annie03
These people do not want to be confused by facts or history.

Perhaps, for their confusion may make them thoughtful, and being thoughtful can lead to individualism.

65 posted on 05/31/2004 11:06:19 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Dan from Michigan
I left my good ones at home.

Gawd, I, myself, hate it when that happens!!

66 posted on 05/31/2004 11:08:10 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: EGPWS
And to think that our country's foundation was based on a document that dictated "Government shall NOT tell proprietors, or anyone else for all that matters, how to pursue their life, liberty or happiness. (legally of course)

And what about this:

 

"The role of government is not to create wealth.
The role of government is to create an environment
in which the entrepreneur or small business or
dreamer can flourish. 
And that starts with rule of law,
respect of private property, less regulatory burdens on the
entrepreneur, open banking laws so that all people
have access to capital, and good tax policy."

President George W. Bush
St. Petersburg University,
St. Petersburg, Russia
May 25, 2002

"The taxing power...must not be used to regulate the economy or bring about social change."
Ronald Reagan - 1981

67 posted on 05/31/2004 11:08:41 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: EGPWS
I wish I had an Opus X with me.

All I got is black and milds(el cheapo).

68 posted on 05/31/2004 11:10:42 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America being passive. They were wrong.” - Reagan)
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To: Annie03; SheLion
We've been made out to be worse that serial killers and child molesters.

She Lion is familiar with the antis that have told me that I am an unfit parent and that CPS will probably be removing my child from my home because I am a smoker.

I always like the surprised looks when we go out to eat (with the kids) and ask for the smoking section.

A few years ago we had gone to the mall to have a family protrait take at a 1-hour studio. After we had the pictures taken we attempted to eat while waiting for them. We had decided to go into Ruby Tuesday's, because we could both get a beer with our meal and smoke.

There was a 30 minute wait, no big deal. When they call our name the hostess proceeded to seat us in the non-smoking section, even though we had requested smoking. The hostess actually said to me they had changed our seating because they knew we must have mistakenly asked for the smoking section because of having a child with us.

I won't go into all the rest of the tedious details about what was said.....suffice to say we did not eat there and we have never set foot in a Ruby Tuesday's since then.

69 posted on 05/31/2004 11:11:58 AM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy has killed more people than all SHS combined.)
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To: All

If all the smokers (me included) would just not buy any tobacco for a solid week (stock up before hand) that would show the tax and spend crowd how much money they would lose if we all quit. Maybe get them to stop raising the taxes on smokes! Tax those healthy folks who will live forever!

The only way I'll quit smoking is when they pat me in the face with a shovel...


70 posted on 05/31/2004 11:13:08 AM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: Graybeard58
You already have that feature. All you have to do is use it.

How's THAT?????

71 posted on 05/31/2004 11:15:51 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: EGPWS
And to think that our country's foundation was based on a document that dictated "Government shall NOT tell proprietors, or anyone else for all that matters, how to pursue their life, liberty or happiness. (legally of course)

States' Rights???

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

72 posted on 05/31/2004 11:17:35 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Annie03
You know, I think I have to check out roll-your-own. We could certainly use the extra money I'd save. Thanks for the tip!

Here you go:

This machine I buy from the Internet.

73 posted on 05/31/2004 11:19:09 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: Annie03
But, but, that's to encourage people to quit for their own good! Why buy 'em there if you can't smoke them? I'd be buying over the net or out-of-state. Are the taxes less in New Jersey?

When Blooming Idiot forced a smoking ban on NYC, all the people in New Jersey yelled

'HURRY TO OUR SIDE!'

LOL!

74 posted on 05/31/2004 11:21:10 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: Annie03
I think it was Pueblo, CO where there was outright civil disobedience when the city council passed a ban.

And if I recall correctly, part of it was the bars and restaurants refused service to members of the council that voted in favor of the ban!!!!

Smoking bans hurt businesses where they are enacted - there is no doubt about it. Just ask any bar or restaurant owner in Maryland along the Delaware line about the impact of the Delaware ban. Their business is booming.

I live an hour south of the MD/DE line in Virginia, and there has been a huge increase in business from Delaware and people that used to vacation there.

75 posted on 05/31/2004 11:21:34 AM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy has killed more people than all SHS combined.)
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To: Gabz
The hostess actually said to me they had changed our seating because they knew we must have mistakenly asked for the smoking section because of having a child with us.

omg...........

76 posted on 05/31/2004 11:23:57 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
The only way I'll quit smoking is when they pat me in the face with a shovel...

That's how I feel. My cigarettes and my coffee. How bad can it be!

77 posted on 05/31/2004 11:24:57 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: SheLion
"The taxing power...must not be used to regulate the economy or bring about social change."

Ronald Reagan - 1981

I knew there was something about that guy that I like! ; )

If ANYONE overlooks the obvious, and doesn't see this next Presidential election as key to the future of our country then well...they are either lost souls or Anti-American.

The US Government was not created to take care of individuals, it was created to enforce the Dogma of ensuring the individual the right to take care of themselves as deemed necessary on an individual basis.

78 posted on 05/31/2004 11:39:25 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: SheLion; Gabz
The only thing missing from FR is an ignore button..........

...especially with a certain ex-CG prohibitionist, and his ilk!

79 posted on 05/31/2004 11:45:45 AM PDT by pageonetoo (rights, what Rights'. You're kidding, right? This is Amerika!)
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To: EGPWS
If ANYONE overlooks the obvious, and doesn't see this next Presidential election as key to the future of our country then well...they are either lost souls or Anti-American.

I hate to sound like doom and gloom.  But I think the days of American Glory is gone.  What with all the Newdow's and the Atheists, and all the "DIVERSITY" in America today........nothing will ever go back to what we are used to.

"They" want to take God out of everything.  Take our flag away...........take away the Cross.....I am in fear of the anti-American's living in the USA then what I am about the terrorists

Everything we grew up believing in and loving, "they" want to take from us.  I'm not happy with them.  Not one bit. 

80 posted on 05/31/2004 11:46:24 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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