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projo.com ^ | 04-04-04 | JENNIFER LEVITZ

[SheLion]

I've never been in the military - can you explain this to me? Thanks...

You've never field stripped a cigarette? It's a must to wash hands after one does this, though......especially if your a woman. I carry Handi Wipes just for this.

When your outside smoking, and when your ready to put out the cigarette, you step on it to put it out.

Then, you tear the paper off, and shake off the remaining tobacco.  You then pull the filter apart into tiny little shreds as well as the paper on the filter.  You can then just let the air take it.  You won't even know it was a cigarette once you get finished field stripping it.  It's pretty cool, but it does make the hands smell funny.  Hence:  Handi Wipes.  

I usually don't have to field strip cigarettes, though.  I am never far from an ashtray or receptacle.

[Gabz]

Why bother with facts.......these minds are made up??????

But you do it for exactly the same reason I and the rest of us do it......there are people out there reading these things, without posting, and that is one of the main reasons more and more people are starting to speak up.

One of the things that really gets me laughing is the claim of the antis that "ALL smokers really, really want to quit, but just can't because they are so addited"........I don't know about you, but I don't know anyone that falls into that category. Every former smoker I know that wanted to stop, just stopped. The only ones that had a bit of trouble were the ones that really didn't want to stop, but felt pressure to do so.

As to the money aspect of the states.....of course it is about money. Delaware more than doubled it's cigarette tax last year to close a shortfall in the state budget, primarily because of the loss of revenue from the racetracks after smoking was banned in the casinos. Typical story, smokers stop going where they are unwelcome, the state loses money and finds another way to recoup it from the same people who are unwelcome. Well this year there is a surplus....and legislators have decided they will give state employees a raise (I've got no problem there) but will not roll back the cigarette tax and instead cut income taxes across the board.

So once again, a minority of the population is charged with benefitting the majority.

I'm so glad I no longer live there!!!

[RobRoy]

>>Thank you so much for not believing all the anti-smoking spin and lies they are trying to pound into the general public. <<

Exactly. It's funny - I am as about as anti-smoking as a guy can get, but I firmly believe in a persons right to do it, and the right of a "PRIVATE" company to allow or dissallow it on their own property.

Regarding second hand smoke - The quantity of a harmful substance is the key to what harm it does to you. That is why you can be exposed to small amounts of radiation, e-coli, etc. on a daily basis with no ill side effects. Smoking a pack a day is not as dangerous as many believe. It's not good, but it doesn't guarantee cancer. Yet second hand smoke contains only a TINY FRACTION of the "smoke" of a single drag on a cigarette. It is not statistically harmful, even if you are exposed daily your entire life. It may make your clothes smell or make you sick, but that's about it, and all "reliable" studies support this.

I would never date a smoker though.

[badbass]

Did you hear on the news last week where THREE states have passed laws where the Feds and cops need NO warrant to come into your home? I saw New Orleans, but wasn't able to stick around for the whole piece. Do you know what other two states this is, besides La?

No, I didn't see that, but nothing surprises me anymore.

[badbass]

Did you hear on the news last week where THREE states have passed laws where the Feds and cops need NO warrant to come into your home? I saw New Orleans, but wasn't able to stick around for the whole piece. Do you know what other two states this is, besides La?

No, I didn't see that, but nothing surprises me anymore.

[SheLion]

They forgot to include: WARNING: Cigarette Smoking Makes You Stink Like Hell.

Not even close to saying that they WILL Kill you! Not even close.

Boy, you may not smoke, but it's your attitude that stinks. You need a life.

[T.Smith]

Could you, please, make a list of the redemptive qualities of smoking? You know, to refute my 'opinion'?

The one's who don't know the things I stated about smoking are actually not just stupid, they are grievously stupid.

Of course I believe you are free to live your life as you see fit, and I wouldn't dream of trying to prevent you from so doing. But, that doesn't make you any more intelligent. You willfully engage in a filthy act that's killing you. It's your right, I don't care. Yet, nothing you say, and no amount of tantrum throwing is going to make the activity less stupid.

[SheLion]

Why bother with facts.......these minds are made up??????

Oh I sure know it.  Believe me. We are at an impasse.  They won't budge and neither will we.

But you do it for exactly the same reason I and the rest of us do it......there are people out there reading these things, without posting, and that is one of the main reasons more and more people are starting to speak up.

Yep! The lurkers.  Exactly!!!

One of the things that really gets me laughing is the claim of the antis that "ALL smokers really, really want to quit, but just can't because they are so addicted"........I don't know about you, but I don't know anyone that falls into that category. Every former smoker I know that wanted to stop, just stopped. The only ones that had a bit of trouble were the ones that really didn't want to stop, but felt pressure to do so.

That's the ticket:  pressured to do so! 

As to the money aspect of the states.....of course it is about money. Delaware more than doubled it's cigarette tax last year to close a shortfall in the state budget, primarily because of the loss of revenue from the racetracks after smoking was banned in the casinos. Typical story, smokers stop going where they are unwelcome, the state loses money and finds another way to recoup it from the same people who are unwelcome. Well this year there is a surplus....and legislators have decided they will give state employees a raise (I've got no problem there) but will not roll back the cigarette tax and instead cut income taxes across the board.

So once again, a minority of the population is charged with benefiting the majority. Sickening.

I'm so glad I no longer live there!!! I bet!

 

Why bother with facts.......these minds are made up??????

Oh I sure know it.  Believe me. We are at an impasse.  They won't budge and neither will we.

But you do it for exactly the same reason I and the rest of us do it......there are people out there reading these things, without posting, and that is one of the main reasons more and more people are starting to speak up.

Yep! The lurkers.  Exactly!!!

One of the things that really gets me laughing is the claim of the antis that "ALL smokers really, really want to quit, but just can't because they are so addicted"........I don't know about you, but I don't know anyone that falls into that category. Every former smoker I know that wanted to stop, just stopped. The only ones that had a bit of trouble were the ones that really didn't want to stop, but felt pressure to do so.

That's the ticket:  pressured to do so! 

As to the money aspect of the states.....of course it is about money. Delaware more than doubled it's cigarette tax last year to close a shortfall in the state budget, primarily because of the loss of revenue from the racetracks after smoking was banned in the casinos. Typical story, smokers stop going where they are unwelcome, the state loses money and finds another way to recoup it from the same people who are unwelcome. Well this year there is a surplus....and legislators have decided they will give state employees a raise (I've got no problem there) but will not roll back the cigarette tax and instead cut income taxes across the board.

So once again, a minority of the population is charged with benefiting the majority. Sickening.

I'm so glad I no longer live there!!! I bet!

 

[SheLion]

I would never date a smoker though.

That's a pity. Your probably cutting yourself off from a lot of great gals!

[SheLion]

Could you, please, make a list of the redemptive qualities of smoking? You know, to refute my 'opinion'?

Let me jump in..........then what is YOUR relaxation of choice? Alcohol or prescription drugs?

[RobRoy]

>>That's a pity. Your probably cutting yourself off from a lot of great gals!<<

If they smoke, they aren't - to me. They make nice friends, but I could never live with one for the same reason I could never live with a vegetarian.

Besides, I'm already married. 8^>

[Gabz]

2. There is absolutely, positively nothing redemptive about smoking. It is unlikely that one smoker in this country does not know that smoking diminishes your quality and quantity of life, that it makes you old and ugly before your time and it makes you smell disgusting. If, knowing that, you still choose to smoke you are the opposite of smart. Which would make you...?

Let me rephrase this properly.

2. There is absolutely, positively nothing redemptive about smoking, in my opinion. It is unlikely that one smoker in this country does not know that smoking may diminish your quality and quantity of life, that it makes you old and ugly before your time, in my opinion and it makes you smell disgusting, to me. If, knowing that, I still choose to generalize and otherwise be insulting to those that smoke I am the opposite of what?????

Polite and Reasonable are the first two words that spring to mind.

[SheLion]

Besides, I'm already married. 8^>

Then you shouldn't be thinking about dating, bad boy! ;)~~~

I love the "8" though. I love Dale Jr.

[T.Smith]

Neither, I work out. Not everybody is prone to addiction.

To be honest, I'm tired of this thread. You haven't said anything substantive yet. You're purpose is just to prove me right while trying to prove me wrong. And, to be the pivot person of a pro-smoker circle jerk.

Everybody else is just mad that they have a filthy habit and I don't mind telling them what they don't want to hear.

[swarthyguy]

>>Your name calling

Potlettleblack. Heal thyself, physician.

Check out the smoking threads. They all disintegrate into the American Talib decrying the aesthetic health financial aspects of smoking.

All logical arguments are thrown aside.

Whatever, enjoy your healthbased utopia.

[Gabz]

I was able to avoid the grocery store trip......hubby was working local this afternoon and did it for me!!!!

The yung'un has her homework finished, her stuff for Wednesday's Easter party and egg hunt at school is packed in her back pack, and all prep work, except slicing meat, for dinner is done. I can play for another half hour or so before I start cooking!

[T.Smith]

>sigh< I've been very patient in my responses to you. I have stated many things as fact that you insist are opinion. I say to you, again, if they are just my opinion then there must be data that runs counter to my opinion. By all means, fish it out and show it to me.

I'll wager that you can't, because it is fact that cigarettes make you stink and shorten your life span.

[Mears]

As I posted before,who the hell reads that crap.

I bought a small electric heater this year and if I read all the warnings on the literature enclosed I would still be reading them.

[Gabz]

Gee, there are an awful lot of "mays" in that list.

For those that don't understand......the use of "may" or "shall" plays a VERY important roll in many different things....one represents a possibility, the other a declarative certainty.

I can think of lots of pieces of legislation I helped torpedo over the years just because of the use or non-use of one of those two simple words.

[Mears]

A rational non smoker,good to read your posts.