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The bill, he said, "fashioned a carefully balanced approach to the needs of businesses, which have traditionally catered to smokers, and the need for members of the non-smoking public to avoid problems associated with second-hand smoke."

In the past five or more years, this isn't even remotely close. I remember when they pulled smoking from the chow halls in the military. The last remaining vestige of smoking safety.

What doesn't make sense is that the "Second Hand Smoke" Theory has been disproven in a study out of California. So why continue? I guess we'd have to ask Adolf Hitler that question.

1 posted on 04/03/2004 3:15:26 PM PST by writer33
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2 posted on 04/03/2004 3:16:47 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Hi Mom! Hi Dad!)
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To: swarthyguy
Here you go. The Fuhrer is waiting for you.
3 posted on 04/03/2004 3:21:21 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a Conservative)
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I listened to Walter Williams substituting for Rush on Friday and he talked about this nonsense. He made a point that I always bring up: If you are ok with a local government dictating to a business that the owner cannot allow smoking, then you should be ok with a local government that has no bias against smoking to force a business owner to allow smoking.
4 posted on 04/03/2004 3:44:05 PM PST by Mark (Treason doth never prosper, for if it prosper, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON.)
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To: writer33; Gabz; SheLion
Here we go again.


5 posted on 04/03/2004 4:23:13 PM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen--caviar and cigarettes)
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To: writer33
Bars and bowling alleys are exempt? For how long?
7 posted on 04/03/2004 4:29:26 PM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen--caviar and cigarettes)
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To: writer33
banning smoking in restaurants and other public places,

Excuse me governor.............The Governor's mansion(where you live) is a public place, a restaurant is not.

A restaurant is owned by a private business person. The governor's mansion is owned by all the taxpayers of Idaho.

What is wrong with these people who keep redefining what is a "public" place?????

9 posted on 04/03/2004 5:16:46 PM PST by Gabz (End Freepathons!!!!!!!!!!!!!.........contribute today!!)
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To: writer33
I am reminded daily that we don't have the necessary resources to protect our borders.

But we do have the resources to monitor each and every building in the US to stop smoking?

May I use the; “we will need to set up guard towers every 500 feet” with smoke detectors, blah blah blah argument?
27 posted on 04/03/2004 10:54:14 PM PST by Kay Soze (Demoncrats gave us Vietnam and Gay Marriages- What more damage could they do to our society ?)
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To: writer33
Why the exemption for bars and bowling alleys? Perhaps the restauranteurs didn't bribe him enough. First he raises our taxes, then he violates private property rights.
28 posted on 04/03/2004 11:22:29 PM PST by cruiserman
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To: writer33
Its a money grab with public support, pure and simple. And the other simple part is this....don't eat out. The money you save will cover the higher cost of smokes. I'm not giving a dime to an establishment who has taken away my rights. And screw the second hand smoke garbage...we can put robots on Mars and can't have ventilation adaquate enough to handle smoke? Give me a break. The next big money grab is....get everyone to stop smoking...they gain 20-30lbs, then they are considered obese, now you send the fat tax squad after them....what a racket!! LOL (puff)
36 posted on 04/04/2004 3:10:12 PM PDT by BriarBey
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To: writer33
In IDAHO? I thought they backed freedom there?
39 posted on 04/04/2004 3:48:32 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Had to cool me down to take another round, now I'm back in the ring to takea-nother swing")
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Kempthorne signed SB 1283 into law, banning smoking in restaurants and other public places, but making exceptions for bars and bowling alleys

They bars and bowling alleys will be next year, when they attempt to legalize illegal aliens.....

44 posted on 04/04/2004 3:58:43 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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In his signing message, the governor said, "I do not believe that there is an absolute personal right to smoke at any time and in any public place."

According to the SCOTUS in LLOYD CORP. v. TANNER, 407 U.S. 551 (1972) involving rights associated with property ownership: “Held: There has been no dedication of petitioner's privately owned and operated shopping center to public use so as to entitle respondents to exercise First Amendment rights therein that are unrelated to the center's operations; and petitioner's property did not lose its private character and its right to protection under the Fourteenth Amendment merely because the public is generally invited to use it for the purpose of doing business with petitioner's tenants.”

45 posted on 04/04/2004 4:20:02 PM PDT by lockjaw02 ("The tragedy of life is what dies within a man while he still lives" --Albert Schweitzer)
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