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To: Right Wing Professor
according to your mythical dictionary

From MSN Encarta online dictionary:

fas•cism or Fas•cism noun dictatorial movement: any movement, tendency, or ideology that favors dictatorial government, centralized control of private enterprise, repression of all opposition, and extreme nationalism

Are you going to tell me that a government that dictates what one can or can't do with his private business regarding a legal activity is not 'dictatorial'? 'Centralized control' does not refer strictly to the monetary aspects of a business. Control exerted over a private enterprise's ability to make its own decisions regarding a legal activity sure sounds like it fits the above definition. I grant you that you aren't desirous of repressing all opposition to your nonsmoking bars, so maybe your views are just slightly fascist. Once again, I am not calling you a fascist, just your opinion in this matter.

316 posted on 03/31/2004 11:54:37 AM PST by tnlibertarian ((puff) (puff) (cough) (puff) (wheeze) (puff) (blowing smoke in your direction) (puff))
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To: tnlibertarian
Are you going to tell me that a government that dictates what one can or can't do with his private business regarding a legal activity is not 'dictatorial'?

Yes. It is not dictatorial to apply reasonable regulations to business, for the protection of the public. Every government in the world does this. By your definition, every government in the world is fascist. In fact,since even libertarians insist that governments enforce contracts, which is certainly a control of business, libertarians are fascists.

By the way, once smoking in a bar is banned, it's not a legal activity, is it?

'Centralized control' does not refer strictly to the monetary aspects of a business. Control exerted over a private enterprise's ability to make its own decisions regarding a legal activity sure sounds like it fits the above definition.

How is a community setting its own standards 'centralized'?

You're playing with the meanings of words. That's charlatanry. Note that I am not calling you a charlatan.

317 posted on 03/31/2004 12:05:31 PM PST by Right Wing Professor (Bush/Cheney in 2004. Because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate.)
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To: tnlibertarian
fas•cism or Fas•cism noun dictatorial movement: any movement, tendency, or ideology that favors dictatorial government, centralized control of private enterprise, repression of all opposition, and extreme nationalism

Seeing as smoking ban laws (at least in this country) are passed by local government (the type of government most beloved by conservatives), it's tough to see how these laws would fall under this definition: there's no dictatorial government here (since these laws are passed by democratically-elected town councils, the people are free to elect new politicians who will reverse these laws), there's no centralization of private enterprise (government regulation does not equal centralization) and the other stuff (repression of opposition etc.) clearly does not apply.

321 posted on 03/31/2004 12:24:19 PM PST by Modernman (Chthulhu for President! Why Vote for the Lesser Evil?)
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