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I recognize that like minded folks can differ on a variety of issues, but how someone posting on this forum can support this law is beyond my comprehension. This ban represents the quintessential example of liberal doctrine - imposing upon others what those in power deem to be in the best interest of those incapable of determining what's in their best interest.

Any Freeper supporting this draconian law, whether in NYC or elsewhere, really needs to reinvestigate their core principles. "I like going out for a drink without my clothes smelling from smoke" doesn't cut it. That's lazy. That's easy. Lazy & easy, what party's ideology does that remind you of?

This is New York for God's sake. Smoke filled bars are part of the city's legacy. And a damn good legacy it is. The ban of smoking in a bar is akin to banning toilet paper in a restroom. That's what people use in a toilet, and that's what people do in a bar. And if for some reason you don't, then do us all a favor and go to the bar with no toilet paper.

"I recognize that like minded folks can differ on a variety of issues, but how someone posting on this forum can support this law is beyond my comprehension. This ban represents the quintessential example of liberal doctrine - imposing upon others what those in power deem to be in the best interest of those incapable of determining what's in their best interest.

Any Freeper supporting this draconian law, whether in NYC or elsewhere, really needs to reinvestigate their core principles. "I like going out for a drink without my clothes smelling from smoke" doesn't cut it. That's lazy. That's easy. Lazy & easy, what party's ideology does that remind you of? "

Good point. Real good point. Bears repeating.

It always seemed to me, given all these people who are "so happy" with the smoking ban, that the market should have figured out this issue. If people really were going to flock to smoke free restaurants, bars, etc., then why wouldn't entrepreneurs start such businesses? I understand banning smoking in public buildings, since often you have no choice but to go there (court, DMV, etc.) but a private business is very different. The most government intervention I would support is law requiring an establishment to clearly identify (in advertising, on window, etc.) their policy: no smoking, smoking, smoke free sections, whatever. Then let consumers choose for themselves. If there really is this huge market for a smoke free venue, I'm confident people will open such restaurants.