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To: robertpaulsen
Asset forfeiture is a 4th amendment issue, not the 5th.

Both the 4th and 5th apply to forfeiture:

Amendment IV:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V:,br> No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

But what does it matter? We could have two amendments or twenty, government will ignore them all the same.

83 posted on 02/06/2004 10:36:13 AM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord)
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To: freeeee
They are not being deprived of property -- they're being deprived of the use of property until the case is settled. Big difference. But even that's changed with the new federal regulations.

The new asset forfeiture regulations are found here. A good summary of the changes are found here in PART II, about half-way down. Read to the end. It should address your concerns.

86 posted on 02/06/2004 11:23:45 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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