[TalBlack]

Inchon.

If you want to make a case for or against include everything--unless ofcourse if doing so would tend to attack your position.
That you position is shakey is indicated by the angry name calling you wrap things up with.

Disagree with you and a person is a "bum". Ok genius, whatever.

[RunningJoke]

"Disagree with you and a person is a "bum". Ok genius, whatever."

You are correct and I apologize for the name calling. I got emotional a few things trigger my emotions. One of these is lying to the American People ala Bill Clinton and of course creating false heroes of men that probably deserved a prison term than lionization from his sycophantic followers.

No, old Generals don't fade away their bad history is covered up while their achievements are magnified to exaggeration.

MacArthur was the Wesley Clark of his time.