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Posted on 10/01/2003 12:00:05 AM PDT by SAMWolf
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Son of a famous American entertainer, Lieutenant Will Rogers, Jr., distinguished himself on the battlefields of Europe. Will Rogers was a man for all seasons -- a Cherokee Indian and a cowboy, a champion roper, a leading master of ceremonies and raconteur, a top box office draw and the writer of a daily newspaper column. Born in the Cherokee Nation in 1879, he traveled far and earned the affection of audiences worldwide before his untimely death in a plane crash near Point Barrow, Alaska, in 1935. To this day, he remains a household name.  Following in the footsteps of his famous humorist father proved challenging for Will Rogers, Jr. Nonetheless, the young Rogers strove mightily to match his father's accomplishments. The eldest of four children, he was born in 1911 in New York City while his father was performing with the Ziegfeld Follies. After graduating from Beverly Hills High School, Rogers attended Stanford University, where he edited an off-campus newspaper, captained the polo team, served on the debating team and set a backstroke swimming record. At college graduation in 1935, Rogers was commissioned a second lieutenant of field artillery. Letting his commission lapse, he purchased The Beverly Hill Citizen newspaper and covered the Spanish Civil War as a correspondent during 1936 and 1937. Rogers' response to the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor was twofold. First, as a Democrat he filed for a seat in the 78th Congress, representing the 16th Congressional District of California. Second, he enlisted as a private in the Army. After Officer Candidate School training at Camp Roberts, Calif., Rogers was again commissioned a second lieutenant of field artillery. He was posted to Camp Hood, Texas, where tank-destroying weapons were being developed and units trained.  Congressman Will Rogers, Jr., ca. 1943-1944 Election to Congress required Rogers to leave active service. While in Congress he served on the Foreign Affairs Committee, visited England during the Blitz and helped write the Soldier Voting Bill. Once again seeking military service, however, he resigned from Congress in May 1944 and received reinstatement to active duty and his third commissioning as a second lieutenant. Pressing for combat duty, Rogers was attached to the 814th Tank Destroyer Battalion, which had reached England in mid-February 1944. Activated on May 22, 1942, at Camp Polk, La., under the command of Colonel Severen T. Wallace, the battalion had moved to Camp Bowie, Texas, then to Camp Hood, where specialized individual and unit training prepared the soldiers to "seek, strike and destroy." At Camp Hood the 750-man battalion came under the command of Lt. Col. Robert Bruce Jones, a Georgia attorney and reserve officer. The 814th completed maneuvers in Louisiana in late 1943. When it reached England, the 814th, equipped with 36 M10 tank destroyers, constituted a powerful anti-tank force. The M10 was diesel-powered and thinly armored, with an open-topped turret based on a standard Sherman M4A3 medium tank chassis. It was highly mobile and sported a 3-inch anti-aircraft gun. The Reconnaissance Company's main weapon was the Greyhound M8 light armored car, equipped with a 37mm gun and a coaxially mounted .30-caliber machine gun, while Headquarters Company had the M20 armored car, equipped with a .50-caliber machine gun.  M10 with 3" Gun 3in GMC M10 - Over 6000 were built in the USA. The British version was called the Wolverine. The basis was the M2A3/4 tank chasis. The hull was sloped and the turrent was partially counter-balanced. The M7 gun had a flat trajectory and was extremely accurate. This exceptional fighting vehicle saw action throughout the ETO. Second Lieutenant Will Rogers, Jr., arrived shortly before the 814th moved from the English Midlands to a marshaling area on England's southern coast. Word spread that Will Rogers' son had joined the battalion, and many of the 814th gathered to watch him take command of 1st Platoon, Reconnaissance Company. The troops had a deep respect for Will Rogers, although they wondered whether his son could handle a combat leadership role. The 814th acted as service troops in England during the Normandy invasion in June 1944, but their time came in August, when they loaded up on LSTs (landing ships, tank). On August 8, 1944, the 814th landed at Utah Beach, and on August 11 the battalion was attached to the 7th Armored Division, part of General George Patton's Third Army. Major General Lindsay MacDonald Silvester, commander of the 7th Armored, split the 814th among his three combat commands, and the division began its advance across France. On numerous occasions, Rogers' 1st Platoon was assigned to lead the armor in the breakout from the hedgerows of Normandy  The M8 light armored car was the only armored car used by the US Army in combat during World War II. Originally developed for the Tank Destroyer force. Approx. 420 M8 armored cars were used primarily by Bn Recon Co. A command and utility version of the M8, the M20 armored utility car, also saw extensive use during the war. When the artillery of the 7th Armored fired on the city of Chartres, the order was passed down to spare its historic sites. Many former members of the 814th believe that the word to spare the Chartres cathedral came from none other than Lieutenant Rogers. After reaching the World War I battlefields of Château-Thierry and Verdun, Patton's Third Army ran out of fuel. Members of the 814th Tank Destroyer Battalion later related how, encouraged by Rogers, some soldiers took advantage of this interlude to tour the historic site. They first visited the American Cemetery at St. Mihiel, then moved on to La Tranchée des Batonettes, where a trench cave-in during the Battle of Verdun had left no trace of the French soldiers in it save for their bayonets. Leading his reconnaissance platoon on patrol over a road through the World War I battlefield, replete with shell-pocks, trenches and barbed wire, Rogers conducted an impromptu history lesson over his radio. As he was explaining how a million men fell in the conflict between the French and the Germans, the sharp bark of his task force commander interrupted him: "Lieutenant Rogers -- let's fight one war at a time!"  Lieutenant Rogers and one of his noncommissioned officers, Sergeant Dwayne Deutcher, survey the French countryside. (Courtesy of Michael Deutcher) When it was once again able to advance, the 7th Armored Division, including the 814th Tank Destroyer Battalion, suffered heavy losses in its attempts to take the fortress city of Metz on the Moselle River. Relieved by the 5th Infantry Division, the 7th Armored was attached to the First Army and, on September 25, began convoying to an assembly area near Maastricht, Holland.
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I've been fortunate that I've never had to share. Only thing close is visiting SAM but we both havae been very polite and managed to share the computer nicely.
LOL. I bet it drove him crazy!
"If yer lookin for a safe place," he said, "just pull that vehicle behind me. I'm the 82nd Airborne. This is as far as the bastards are going." Had to repost that. Gotta love a soldier like that. The 82nd and 101st sure helped pull our chestnuts out of the fire at the Bulge.
M-8. The theory seems to be a lighter, less well armored, vehicle can outmaneuver and destroy those heavy tanks. Now where have I heard that one recently??? Does every generation have to reinvent the wheel, er, track?
Will Rogers, Jr., a Democrat who would rather fight for his country than sit in Congress. My, my, how times have changed.
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Oddball: Hi man.
Big Joe: What are you doing?!
Oddball: I'm drinking wine and eating cheese, and catching some rays, you know ...
Big Joe: What's happening?!
Oddball: Well, the tank's broke and they're trying to fix it ...
Big Joe: Well then, why the hell aren't you up there helping them?!
Oddball: [chuckles] I only ride em, I don't know what makes em work.
I heard that! No you didn't drive me crazy!!
Sure seem like it doesn't it. The M-8 was good for recon but it was supposed to spot and scoot not slug it out.
The Tank Destroyer theory the US had didn't quite work out as well as they thought either. Seems the enemy didin't cooperate and used their tanks to fight our tanks. Imagine that! ;-)
LOL! Maybe we have a nicer generation of bad guys these days who'll put their tanks, ATGM's and RPG's away when they see a Stryker. I mean, t'wouldn't be fair, now would it?
Oh please SAM, I happen to know it's not that easy. It's true we don't have to write the original material but it does take time to code it and find just the right amount of material to present and hunt for appropriate pics. You are too modest.
Not to mention coming up with ideas! So there.
I found this information about his thoughts in his later years regarding his political experience.
Will Rogers Jr. on: The State Department
I was very well aware that the State Department was opposed to the rescue of large numbers of Jews. They didn't know where they would go. They were afraid that it would open up a whole bunch of bean cans that they didn't want to have opened up at all.
In retrospect, I feel that the State Department was extremely bad. At that time, I must say, I didn't pay too much attention to the State Department. I lumped the State Department as the Administration, and being with Roosevelt. I thought Roosevelt was a rather kind man and I thought he was wrong and that he was not paying enough attention as he should to the Jewish problems.
I could not understand the Administration that I supported. I could not understand their attitude towards the rescue of large numbers of Jews. I thought it would have been the humanitarian thing, that I would have thought Roosevelt would have been in favor of. I could not understand why he was not. And the only reason that I could give was that he was afraid of the Arabs, he was afraid of oil, he was afraid of Palestine, and of international issues.
The big consideration was saving lives immediately. I could forget all the other arguments and actually I would walk out when they were occurring.
I imagine lots of men in the ETO, especially those who actually saw the death camps, would agree with him. Roosevelt expressed concern about the safety of Jews before the war, but when time came to take them in wouldn't do it. The administration also was pretty callous about repatriation of people to the Soviet Union against their will after the war. Patton was on to something when he said the politicians always leave us with one more war to fight. I hope to God that Congress doesn't do that to us in Iraq.
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