The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Will Rogers Jr. & the Battle for St.Vith (Dec/1944) - Oct. 1st, 2003

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[Johnny Gage]

Uh.. I don't think that's a MIG.

I think its a P-39 airacobra. This plane was the "early version" of what became the P-51 Mustang.

I did an Air Power on that one a while back. Many of the P-39's went to Russia during the war.

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[SAMWolf]

Morning Darksheare.

[SAMWolf]

1942 Bell P-59 Airacomet fighter, 1st US jet, makes maiden flight

[snippy_about_it]

Good morning and thank you both for your posts today at the Foxhole. Tanks and planes. Woo-hoo.

[snippy_about_it]

LOL. Good morning w/w.

[SAMWolf]

I also now know what an M8 Greyhound is, (I believe I was firing those in SP, no wonder the Germans were destroying them). LOL.

LOL! M8 taking on Panthers is not a good idea. Run Away! Run Away!

Sounds like something you'd do!

:-) Yep, I've been known to do that.

[snippy_about_it]

Good morning feather.

[SAMWolf]

Yep, and the US has had a habit of backing it up.

[snippy_about_it]

Have "fun" in "kindergarten" today. :-)

LOL. I try!

[snippy_about_it]

Run Away!

I didn't have a chance to retreat! I wasn't french so I couldn't surrender. I just got blown away. LOL.

[Light Speed]

Hi Johnny.

It is a Mig...Mig 3..which had several variants.

The image angle is deceptive..as it does look a bit like an Aircobra.

Russian YAK 9 can look like Mig 3 from certain angles aswell.

[ex-snook]

You do great work Sam. thanks

[SAMWolf]

Thanks Johnny. Everytime I see the P-47 I'm amazed that tit could fly, it's sorta like the "bumblebee" of the Aircraft world.

With over 210 bullet holes in his P-47 Thunderbolt, and various personal wounds, pilot Bob Johnson is seen limping back to base after a confrontation with sixteen FW-190's. During this lonely and sobering trip he encountered another FW-190 who kindly escorted him to the English Channel, but not before he emptied every one of his 7.9 mm rounds into Johnson's plane!

[SAMWolf]

When I was stationed in Germany, I took a trip to the Bulge battlefields. In La Gleize, Belguim there's a King Tiger that was left behind when Peiper's Kampgruppe withdrew, they destroyed it because it was out of gas. The front glacis plate if full of dents and there where at least two shells imbedded in it that failed to penetrate.

One shell is under the MG and one is right in the center where the two front plates come together.

[SAMWolf]

Morning Light Speed. Love seeing pics of German Armor. Thanks

[Light Speed]

Morning Snippy..Sam..all.

WW-2 is an intersting study as aviation goes..so many designs tried....some worked to 12 generation mods..others ...best copy attempt by certain nations.

Russia was able to fudge certain elements from British and U.S. aircraft design....MIG 3 certainly shows this.
Some elements are Similar to the British Spitfire...and U.S. Aircobra.

Moving up to recent times...the U.S. tested a forward wing in the X-29.
Russia startled the aviation world a few years back with SU 47/37 Berkut..their *testbed attempt at a 5th generation fighter.

Shades of "Firefox"....."Gant..can you fly that plane"?

[SAMWolf]

Hi Feather.

[Darksheare]

Morning.
Now what is this netgame you two been playing that deals with M8's and Panthers in a rather one sided matchup?
And where can I find it, I gotta spectate on it if it has such an option.

[Johnny Gage]

Wow, very interesting, I didn't know that

I'm wondering if they got the blueprints for the P-39 and then built their own under the Mig and Yak monikers.

[SAMWolf]

That might be a Mig-3, it looked pretty close to the P-39. It's hard to tell for sure from the angle in the picture.