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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Will Rogers Jr. & the Battle for St.Vith (Dec/1944) - Oct. 1st, 2003
www.military.com ^ | Calvin C. Boykin, Jr.

Posted on 10/01/2003 12:00:05 AM PDT by SAMWolf

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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; MistyCA; AntiJen; SpookBrat; PhilDragoo; All
Hi everyone!


101 posted on 10/01/2003 6:15:31 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Arnold has the conviction and the fighting spirit to lead California into a new age of recovery)
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To: colorado tanker
Wuff Wuff.

Its a riot that film : )

I enjoy "one liner" comedy..Don rickles was great.
I still image the "Turkish military" ..er Nato..to travel much like Odd Balls group.: )

102 posted on 10/01/2003 6:22:39 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Evening Victoria. Good Graphic tonight.
103 posted on 10/01/2003 6:23:37 PM PDT by SAMWolf (You're so vain I bet you think this tagline's about you...)
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To: SAMWolf
Hi Sam. Thanks.
104 posted on 10/01/2003 6:28:40 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Arnold has the conviction and the fighting spirit to lead California into a new age of recovery)
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To: Light Speed
Kelly's Heroes was a hoot, fer shure. I love sight gags, and physical comedy - you know, lowbrow humor.

Here's another line:

Crapgame: Try making a DEAL!

Big Joe: What kind of DEAL?

Crapgame: A DEAL, deal! Maybe he's a Republican. You know, "Business is business."

105 posted on 10/01/2003 6:44:37 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Oddball: "A . . . tank can give you an . . . edge.")
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To: snippy_about_it; colorado tanker; SAMWolf
Surely one of Hollywoods best..



106 posted on 10/01/2003 6:47:58 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: SAMWolf
I'm in the camp that thinks Stryker is not "transformational," whatever that really means.

I think Stryker is well suited to peacekeeping and intervention against a third-world style infantry army. It is not well suited to fight against armor or an army well-equiped with ATGM's. Stryker would have sustained heavy casualties against the Iraqi army.

Stryker should be OK in Iraq's north or south, but I have real issues with deploying it in the Sunni triangle. If they put the Stryker brigade there, I hope to God that retrofitted RPG protection is worth a damn.

107 posted on 10/01/2003 6:50:02 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Oddball: "A . . . tank can give you an . . . edge.")
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To: colorado tanker
Big Joe: If I hear any more threats against the Captain's life, or any more rumors about going down to headquarters and assassinating the General, or raping the nurses at the field hospital, I'm going to strangle the guy with my bare hands! Got it?

Oddball: Arf arf arf... That's my other dog impression

Bellamy tells him he's behind enemy lines
Oddball: So they tell me. Everybody round here is very friendly. Look, baby, I'm kinda hung up. I need sixty feet of bridge.
Bellamy: Hey, kid, they haven't got you in the nut ward again?
Oddball: Ah, Bellamy, for cryin' out loud. That's the the stinking, most awful, stupid joke and you're always pullin' that stinking awful stupid joke. You don't want in this thing, you don't get in this thing. I cut you in on everything. I don't need you. Sixty feet of bridge I can get almost anywhere. Schmuck!

At a supply depot somewhere in France
Oddball: We see our role as essentially defensive in nature. While our armies are advancing so fast and everyone's knocking themselves out to be heroes, we are holding ourselves in reserve in case the Krauts mount a counteroffensive which threatens Paris...or maybe ever New York. Then we can move in and stop them. But for 1.6 million dollars, we could become heroes for three days.

Big Joe: ... There's no booze, there's no broads, there's no action!
Captain Maitland: That's another thing -- don't fool around with the women. Their husbands carry guns. And remember, the penalty for looting is death.
Big Joe: Loot what? There is nothing to loot!

108 posted on 10/01/2003 6:52:07 PM PDT by SAMWolf (You're so vain I bet you think this tagline's about you...)
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To: Light Speed
Great Movie! I'm gonna have to rent that again.
109 posted on 10/01/2003 6:52:51 PM PDT by SAMWolf (You're so vain I bet you think this tagline's about you...)
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To: colorado tanker
I think Stryker is well suited to peacekeeping and intervention against a third-world style infantry army.

I agree with you there, I just hope the Army doesn't start thinking their "Heavy Armor"

110 posted on 10/01/2003 6:54:22 PM PDT by SAMWolf (You're so vain I bet you think this tagline's about you...)
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To: Light Speed
Oh, don't get me started on Steve McQueen - one of the best ever.

Just saw Bullitt again recently. I don't get how a Charger, truly a muscle car, loses to a Mustang, just a roadster, really, but dang if I don't cheer for Bullitt every time and dang if he doesn't win every time.

111 posted on 10/01/2003 6:54:51 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Oddball: "A . . . tank can give you an . . . edge.")
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To: Light Speed
If I understand the French correctly, the title is "Gunners of the Yangstze." I like that better than "Sand Pebbles."
112 posted on 10/01/2003 6:57:31 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Oddball: "A . . . tank can give you an . . . edge.")
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To: SAMWolf
Great movie. We should never take the Army TOO seriously. I sure didn't when I was in. :)
113 posted on 10/01/2003 6:59:53 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Oddball: "A . . . tank can give you an . . . edge.")
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To: colorado tanker; SAMWolf

Doubtfull in our time wether any armor is really survivable considering the *Specially designed Tank rounds,ATGM'S and mines which exist..then too...overhead CAS.

Janes intel revealed that the Russkies did give the Serbs *Depleted Uranium tank rounds in the Balkans to use.
Its a debate as to possibilty on some newer generation French or Russian ATGM's being slipped into Republican guard to see how they performed.
Israel went on a turret modernization of its Merkava series...also mod their U.S. M 60's with new turrets.
Merkava 4 is said to have a turret specially designed to defeat *above attack ATGM shots.

I would imagine Stryker is an attempt to succedd the current LAV design..which is very mobile and efficient.
Track vehicles numerically go out on some math curve as maintenence in the field goes.
Canadas Patricia's went to several wheeled armor designs..they were succesfull in Afghanistan..the hint is...wheels get their and back better than track.


114 posted on 10/01/2003 7:10:34 PM PDT by Light Speed
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If I understand the French correctly, the title is "Gunners of the Yangstze." I like that better than "Sand Pebbles."
The web site has pics from several countries lobby cards and such...most are B/W.

and the french...well.

Another famous moment in fench military history


115 posted on 10/01/2003 7:19:16 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: Light Speed
I love that picture!! :-))
116 posted on 10/01/2003 7:52:34 PM PDT by SAMWolf (You're so vain I bet you think this tagline's about you...)
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To: Light Speed
LOL! It's been pretty much downhill for the French since Austerlitz, hasn't it?
117 posted on 10/01/2003 7:54:53 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Oddball: "A . . . tank can give you an . . . edge.")
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To: colorado tanker
Hollywood never quite gets the military right..

Thank you tanker. I'm sure if I watch any with SAM he'll be correcting any mistakes the movie makes. LOL.

Patton was on to something when he said the politicians always leave us with one more war to fight.

Yep, it seems to be so.

118 posted on 10/01/2003 7:59:28 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Good evening Victoria, good graphic.
119 posted on 10/01/2003 8:01:45 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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Evening Snippy! So good to see you around, I thought you were sleeping. :-)
120 posted on 10/01/2003 8:03:55 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (Arnold has the conviction and the fighting spirit to lead California into a new age of recovery)
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