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The FReeper Foxhole Studies - The Browning .50 caliber Machine Gun "MA DEUCE" - Aug. 29th, 2003

Posted on 08/29/2003 4:55:59 AM PDT by snippy_about_it

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To: SAMWolf
One Good Night Song

and

One Song for the 'special project'

81 posted on 08/29/2003 7:22:02 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our troops)
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To: snippy_about_it
Good Night Snippy.

Gloria Estefan, good song.
82 posted on 08/29/2003 7:44:17 PM PDT by SAMWolf (I'm So miserable Without You, It's Like Having You Here)
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To: SAMWolf
The second link didn't work, Let's try this again.
83 posted on 08/29/2003 7:45:54 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our troops)
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To: snippy_about_it
LOL! I like Jimmy Buffet for his music, his politics are totally screwed.
84 posted on 08/29/2003 7:55:21 PM PDT by SAMWolf (I'm So miserable Without You, It's Like Having You Here)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; radu; Victoria Delsoul; E.G.C.; Darksheare

M2HB .50 Caliber Air Cooled Machine Gun

Operation Selective Fire; Semiautomatic or Fully Automatic, recoil operated, air cooled
Caliber .50 (12.7 mm)
Ammunition bullet 710 gr, charge 235 gr
Muzzle velocity 853.4 mps (2930 fps)
Capacity 110-round metallic link belt
Weight 57.8 kg (128 lbs); barrel 81 lbs, tripod 44 lbs
Overall length 165.4 cm (65.1 in), (barrel 45 in)
Rate of fire 400 to 550 rounds per minute
Effective range 2287m (2500 yds)

Note: The M2 .50 caliber machine gun is still standard issue today. Mr. Browning's magnificent weapon may see its 100th birthday, still on active duty.

The .50 caliber machine gun is primarily an anti-vehicular weapon. Its weight, and the weight of its ammunition, make it unsuitable for mobile infantry use. However, in semi-fixed positions such as the MLR in Korea, or mounted on vehicles in file, as in the withdrawal from Chosin, the weapon is magnificent. Its great range and striking power make it deadly in enfilade against troops staging for assault. Again, these capabilities make it ideal for quick reaction against machine gun and mortar positions on heights overlooking road communications.

Against massed infantry attack over ground with relatively constant slope, as against the Chinese human wave assaults on our MLR such as at Vegas, the M2 is a truly terrible force. For mobile patrol deployment, mounted on light vehicles, it is equally effective.

Quad .50-caliber M2 Heavy Barrel Air-Cooled Heavy Machine Guns Mounted on half-track, WWII AAA vintage

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Col. L. Fletcher Prouty USAF (Dec.), former liason with Special Forces for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, reports that for the Bay of Pigs operation, "the CIA's very able and potent Air Division already had. . .the versatile B-26 bombers that had been modified by the Air Force for the CIA to carry eight 50-cal aircraft-type machine guns in the nose." Prouty recounts the refusal of the Kennedy administration to grant permission for the final raid by these B-26's to destroy Castro's three .50 cal. equipped T-33 jet trainers on the ground.

Prouty: "We had provided the rebels with 16 B-26's that I had put through a transition project in Arizona. They had 8 50 Cal. machine guns in each nose. (With this in mind), Castro had only 10 capable combat aircraft Kennedy ordered them all to be destroyed before the landing. On Sat., a.m., May 15th they were attacked and all of 7 were destroyed. We scoured Cuba with U-2 reconnaissance and found that three jets that Castro had left were all that he had; but these armed jets could easily shoot down the B-26's. Therefore Kennedy made it very clear on May 16th that the landing could not take place until the Rebel's B-26's had totally destroyed the last three Castro jets...ON THE GROUND. (If this had been done, as ordered by the President then the 16 bombers could have supported the invasion and the Cuban rebels would have had a more than even chance to beat Castro's ground troops and their equipment by bombardment."

Hence the brigade was cut to pieces and a special bullet was designed for JFK designated the Mannlicher-Banana Miracle Specter Bullet which could turn corners and leap tall buildings. It is not true, however, that "to zap", meaning to kill is derived from the Zapruder film.

The Counter Invader was a highly modified version of the Douglas A-26 Invader, a WW II attack bomber. Redesignated B-26 in 1948, the Invader served again during the Korean War (1950-53), mainly as a night intruder against North Korean supply lines. It was removed from service in 1958, but in 1961 the USAF recalled many Invaders for use as tactical bombers in Southeast Asia (SEA). Combat duty and two decades of wear took their toll and, in 1964, the B-26s again were removed from service.

In 1966, the old bomber was resurrected once more when the improved B-26K Counter Invader returned to SEA for ground-attack missions along the Ho Chi Minh Trail. Modified by the On Mark Engineering Co., the B-26K had a rebuilt fuselage and tail, strengthened wings, improved engines, reversible propellers, wing-tip fuel tanks, and other refinements. Redesignated A-26As in 1966, Counter Invaders remained in SEA until 1969, then were removed for disposal.

Originally an A-26C converted to B-26K, the Counter Invader on display was one of the first six to arrive at Nakon Phanom Royal Thai Air Force Base in 1966. In November 1980 it was flown to the Museum.

85 posted on 08/29/2003 10:55:29 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
Good evening PhilDragoo.

Thanks for the info on the modified B-26.

The -G model was basically a B-25C with the 'greenhouse' nose replaced by a shorter solid nose housing a 75mm M4 cannon and two fixed .50-cal. machine guns. The cannon was manually reloaded after each shot; twenty one 75mm rounds were carried onboard.

Since the -G model was primarily intended to fill the ground attack and strafing role, more armor plating protecting the crew and ammunition storage areas was added to the aircraft. Fuel capacity increased, but so did the aircraft's gross weight; however, the top speed was only reduced by 3 mph (281 mph for the -G and 284 for the -C model).

The B-25H was an improved version of the B-25G. The fixed nose armament was increased to four nose-mounted .50-cal. machine guns and four more .50-cal. machine guns in fuselage mounted pods. The 75mm cannon was changed from the -G model's M4 to the lighter T13E1 75mm cannon.

The Bay of Pigs fiasco was a betrayal of the Cubans by the Kennedy admistration, funny how it's never mentioned by the Kennedy worshippers.

86 posted on 08/29/2003 11:54:20 PM PDT by SAMWolf (I'm So miserable Without You, It's Like Having You Here)
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To: PhilDragoo
Interesting stuff. Thanks Phil for the article.
87 posted on 08/30/2003 3:08:47 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: SAMWolf
Ready for a 3 day Weekend?

What's that? LOL!!! I hardly remember what a weekend is. The days are all the same. hehe!

IF it doesn't rain later today, we at least get a little "fun break". We'll be going to a cruise-in this afternoon and evening. Guess I should carry my lil carcass to the bat cave for a couple winks of sleep. I stayed up a bit later than I'd planned. That's nothing new, is it? LOL!!!

Hope you have a fantabulous holiday weekend, my friend. That's a hope I extend to everyone.

88 posted on 08/30/2003 3:19:01 AM PDT by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: PhilDragoo
The pictures are great, thank you Phil.

I love your two sentence wrap-up of the JFK assassination. Your wry sense of humor zaps me! LOL.
89 posted on 08/30/2003 3:36:38 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our troops)
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To: radu
I hope you get to enjoy at least some of the holiday weekend.

All work and no play....
90 posted on 08/30/2003 7:41:01 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Ever notice that Liberals consider the 2nd Amendment to our Constitution as a "typo".)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
Happiness Is A Belt-Fed Weapon. Loved the Vulcan.
91 posted on 08/30/2003 8:11:01 AM PDT by sargunner
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To: sargunner

92 posted on 08/30/2003 11:08:49 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our troops)
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To: sargunner

GAU-8/A Avenger
The GAU-8/A gun is capable of firing rates of 2100 and 4200 spm.

Used in the A-10 Warthog

93 posted on 08/30/2003 12:50:36 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Ever notice that Liberals consider the 2nd Amendment to our Constitution as a "typo".)
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To: SAMWolf
What a beauty:


94 posted on 08/30/2003 2:48:23 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
Yep, she sure was!

The G andd H models made great anti-shipping bombers

95 posted on 08/30/2003 4:02:28 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Ever notice that Liberals consider the 2nd Amendment to our Constitution as a "typo".)
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To: snippy_about_it
!!!!!!!!!!

free dixie,sw

96 posted on 09/01/2003 3:41:24 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
LOL. About time!!! ;)
97 posted on 09/01/2003 3:42:49 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our troops)
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To: CholeraJoe
don't be too sure. the TAILGUNNER on a 17 was a BAD place to be.

the father one of my best girlfriends in HS days was TSgt Houston Burkhardt, a former B17 tailgunner of the USAAC. he was the ONLY member of his gunnery class to survive the war= one of 188 BRAVE men!

free dixie,sw

98 posted on 09/01/2003 3:48:27 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SAMWolf
Sam, my mother taught HS English to ALL of the Murphy kids in the 1930s.

she still talks about his HIJINKS! and was VERY proud of him.

SADLY, he was NOT well-liked by the townsfolk at home because his family "pulled onions" for a very poor living. when he came home from war, he was asked NOT to visit his sisters on the campus & was NOT given a homecoming party.

the TXARNG rememied that ommission in the late sixites!

free dixie,sw

99 posted on 09/01/2003 4:02:18 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SAMWolf
Sam, my mother taught HS English to ALL of the Murphy kids in the 1930s.

she still talks about his HIJINKS! and was VERY proud of him.

SADLY, he was NOT well-liked by the townsfolk at home because his family "pulled onions" for a very poor living. when he came home from war, he was asked NOT to visit his sisters on the campus & was NOT given a homecoming party.

the TXARNG rememied that ommission in the late sixties!

free dixie,sw

100 posted on 09/01/2003 4:02:41 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
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