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The FReeper Foxhole Profiles Major Gregory "Pappy" Boyington - Mar. 22nd, 2003
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Posted on 03/22/2003 12:00:46 AM PST by SAMWolf



Dear Lord,

There's a young man far from home,
called to serve his nation in time of war;
sent to defend our freedom
on some distant foreign shore.

We pray You keep him safe,
we pray You keep him strong,
we pray You send him safely home ...
for he's been away so long.

There's a young woman far from home,
serving her nation with pride.
Her step is strong, her step is sure,
there is courage in every stride.
We pray You keep her safe,
we pray You keep her strong,
we pray You send her safely home ...
for she's been away too long.

Bless those who await their safe return.
Bless those who mourn the lost.
Bless those who serve this country well,
no matter what the cost.

Author Unknown

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Major Gregory "Pappy" Boyington
1912 - 1988

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Undoubtedly the most colorful and well known Marine Corps' ace was Gregory "Pappy" Boyington, commanding officer of VMF-214.

Stories of Pappy Boyington are legion, many founded in fact, including how he led the legendary Black Sheep squadron, and how he served in China as a member of the American Volunteer Group, the famed Flying Tigers. He spent a year and a half as a Japanese POW, was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, was recognized as the Marine Corps top ace (more on that below). Always hard-drinking and hard-living, Pappy's post-war life was as turbulent as his wartime experiences.

The best biography of Boyington that I've read is Bruce Gamble's Black Sheep One: The Life of Gregory "Pappy" Boyington, released late in 2000.



Born on Dec. 4, 1912, young Greg had a rough childhood - divorced parents, alcoholic step-father (who Greg believed to be his natural father until he entered the Marine Corps), and lots of moves. He grew up in St. Maries, Idaho, a small logging town. Greg got his first ride in an airplane when he was only six years old. The famous barnstormer, Clyde Pangborn, flew his Jenny into town, and Greg wangled a ride. What a thrill for a little kid!

Greg's family moved to Tacoma, Washington in 1926. In high school, he took up a sport that he would practice for many years - wrestling. Especially when he had had a few too many (which was often), adult Boyington would challenge others to impromptu wrestling bouts, frequently with injurious results. He enrolled at the University of Washington in 1930, where he continued wrestling and participated in ROTC. He met his first wife, Helene there; they were married not long after his graduation in 1934. His first son, Gregory Clark Boyington, was born 10 months later.

Marine Aviator


After a year with Boeing, Greg enlisted in the Marine Corps. On having to supply them with his birth certificate, he only learned of his natural father at that date. He began elimination training in June, 1935, where (in the small world of Marine aviation at that time) he met Richard Mangrum and Bob Galer, both future heroes at Guadalcanal. He passed, and received orders to begin flight training at Pensacola NAS in January, 1936 with class 88-C. Here he flew a floatplane version of the Consolidated NY-2. Like another great ace, Gabby Gabreski, Boyington had a tough time with flight training, and had to undergo a number of rechecks.



Until he arrived in Pensacola, Boyington, had never touched alcohol. But here, with hard-partying fliers, and aware of his wife's "fooling around," he soon discovered his affinity for liquor. Early on, Boyington established his Marine Corps reputation: hard-drinking, brawling, well-liked, and always ready to wrestle at the drop of a hat. But he kept flying, all through 1936, slowly progressing toward earning his wings, flying more powerful planes like the Vought O2U and SU-1 scouting biplanes. At Pensacola, he also met his future nemesis, Joe Smoak, memorialized in Baa Baa Black Sheep as "Colonel Lard." He finally won his coveted wings in March, 1937, becoming Naval Aviator #5160.

Before reporting for his assignment with VMF-1 at Quantico, Virginia, he took advantage of his 30-day to return home, and reconcile with his wife Helene, who became pregnant with their second child. In those days Marine aviators were required to be bachelors; Greg's family was a secret that he kept from the brass, but he brought them with him to Virginia, installing them quietly in nearby Fredericksburg. He flew F4B-4 biplanes during 1937, taking part in routine training, an air show dubbed the "All American Air Maneuvers," and a fleet exercise in Puerto Rico.

In March of 1938, VMF-1 aviators excited took possession of the latest, hottest Grumman fighters, the F3F-2s, the last biplane fighters used by US air forces. Powered by Wright-Cyclone engines of 950 horsepower, the fat-bellied aircraft were fast and rugged. In July, he moved to Philadelphia, to attend the Marine Corps' Basic School for ten months. Apparently not motivated by the "ground-pounder" curriculum, Boyington here evidenced the weaknesses that would haunt him: excessive drinking, borrowing money (and not repaying it), fighting, and poor official performance.



His irresponsibility, his debts, and his difficulties with the Corps continued to mount throughout 1939 and 1940, when he flew with VMF-2, stationed at San Diego. One memorable, drunken night, he tried to swim across San Diego Bay, and wound up naked and exhausted in the Navy's Shore Patrol office. Despite his problems on the ground, it was during these days of 1940, flying with VMF-2, that Boyington first began to be noticed as a top-notch pilot. Whatever his other issues, he could out-dogfight almost anyone. Back at Pensacola in January, 1941, his problems mounted - he decked a superior officer in a fight over a girl (not his wife), and his creditors sought official help from the Marine Corps. Greg's career was a hopeless mess by late 1941.

Flying Tiger


Rescue came from, of all places, China. Anxious to help the Chinese in their war against Japan, the U.S. government arranged to supply fighter planes and pilots to China, under the cover of the Central Aircraft Manufacturing Company (CAMCO). CAMCO recruiters visited US military aviation bases looking for volunteers. As Bruce Gamble described it in Black Sheep One:



The pilots were volunteers only in the sense that they willingly quit their peacetime job with the military; otherwise they were handsomely paid through CAMCO. Pilots earned $600 a month, flight leaders $675, plus a fat bonus for each Japanese plane destroyed. This was double or even triple the current military salary for pilots. ... In March, CAMCO representatives began recruiting military pilots for what would become the American Volunteer Group (AVG). ... One recruiter set up an interview room in San Diego's San Carlos Hotel, a popular watering hole for pilots. On the night of August 4, Greg Boyington found himself in the hotel bar simply "looking for an answer." Payday had been just a few days earlier, but already he was broke. His wife and children were gone, he was deeply in debt, and many of his superiors were breathing down his neck.

The money looked very good to Boyington. Assured that the program had government approval and that his spot in the Corps was safe, he signed on the spot, and promptly resigned from the Marine Corps. While the AVG deal for pilots normally did contemplate a return to active U.S. military service, in Greg's case, his superiors took a different view. They were happy to be rid of him, and noted in his file that he should not be reappointed.

He shipped out of San Francisco on September 24, 1941, in the Boschfontein, of the Dutch Java Line. After docking at Rangoon, the AVG fliers arrived at their base at Toungoo on November 13. He flew several missions during the defense of Burma. After Burma fell, he returned to Kunming, and flew from there until the Flying Tigers were incorporated into the USAAF. His autobiography includes many war stories from his experiences with the Flying Tigers, including:

  • the voyage across the Pacific, the AVG fliers' cover story of ministers
  • the Sultan of Johore's palace and wives
  • arrival in Rangoon, Claire Chennault and Harvey Greenlaw
  • Kunming and the three AVG squadrons
  • first combat in February 1942, back in Burma
  • Jim Adams and Bill Tweedy, the two older colonials, living a life of ease, and entertaining the American pilots
  • a mechanic offering General Stilwell a can of tomatoes, "Hey bub, you want some of these?"
  • the Allied retreat from Rangoon in March 1942 and the Flying Tigers' return to Kunming
  • his botched escort of Chiang Kai Chek


He clashed with the leader of the Flying Tigers, the strong-willed Claire Chennault. He quit the AVG in April 1942; Chennault gave him a dishonorable discharge, and Greg went back to the U.S.

Boyington's Flying Tiger Record




Boyington claimed to have shot down six Japanese fighters, which would have made him one of the first American aces of the war. He maintained until his death in 1988 that he did, in fact, have six kills, and the Marine Corps officially credits him with those kills. From AVG records, which were loosely kept, he was credited (paid) for 2 aerial kills. Why the discrepancy between 2 and 6? I think Bruce Gamble, in Black Sheep One got it right. Gamble notes that in a raid on Chiang Mai, Boyington was one of four pilots who were credited with destroying 15 planes on the ground. As the AVG paid for destroyed Japanes planes, on the ground or in the air, Boyington lobbied for his share of the Chiang Mai planes - 3.75, to be precise. Later, while at Guadalcanal, he characterized his Flying Tiger record as including "six kills." For Greg Boyington, to add 3.75 ground claims to 2 aerial kills, round it off to six kills, and establish himself as one of the first American aces, was a "little white lie" indeed. But once his AVG number of six kills found its way into print, and his USMC victories started piling up, there was no going back. Dan Ford's Flying Tigers web site also has a detailed discussion of Pappy Boyington's claims with the AVG.

(As my site only includes the aces' service with United States' armed forces, Pappy's USMC total is shown as 22, whether he shot down 2, 6, or none while a Flying Tiger for the Chinese government. I have received numerous e-mails on this topic, and while I concur with Bruce Gamble's analysis, both Gamble and I consider Pappy Boyington to be a great American hero, albeit a flawed one, as Pappy himself was quick to admit. - SS)

While with the Flying Tigers, Greg also made the acquaintance of Olga Greenlaw, the XO's beautiful wife, who, in her own words "knew how to get along with a man if I like him." Apparently she and Boyington "got along." She wrote her own book, The Lady and the Tigers, in 1943.



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To: AntiJen
If you think that Gunny is "a kick," you ought to have a real Gunny kicking you around! LOL!

I like him too, and he gets the character just about right. Every really good military unit has a guy like him, otherwise, they are not a good unit.
61 posted on 03/22/2003 4:56:23 PM PST by Taxman
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To: Taxman
I know the feeling, seems the Army doesn't want any old guys either.
62 posted on 03/22/2003 5:01:25 PM PST by SAMWolf (We can count on the French to be there when they need us.)
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To: SAMWolf
That may be an unknowable. There was a hellofa purge, post Tailhook, in all the services, thanks, in equal parts, to der Slichmeister and wimpy leadership at the Flag/General Officer level.

Thank God that Owlbore did not win in 2000! Can you even begin to imagine the mess we'd be in today?

BTW, a lot of guys who got out between 1993 and 2000 have gone back in since "W" became President. Did you know that?

For some strange reason, respect seems to breed respect!
63 posted on 03/22/2003 5:01:46 PM PST by Taxman
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To: Taxman
BTW, a lot of guys who got out between 1993 and 2000 have gone back in since "W" became President. Did you know that?

I didn't know that, that's great news. Nice to know that some people were able to restart their career again.

64 posted on 03/22/2003 5:04:30 PM PST by SAMWolf (We can count on the French to be there when they need us.)
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To: SAMWolf
Well, thank you for your service.

I sure am transfixed by this "Shock and Awe" campaign, and find myself wishing that LBJ had fired Robert McNamara and told his Generals and Admirals to go kick some NVA ass.

And not to call til the job was done!

Wouldn't that have been sweet?
65 posted on 03/22/2003 5:06:25 PM PST by Taxman
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To: Taxman
Oh, I almost forgot. I also wish that LBJ had shut down the State Department!
66 posted on 03/22/2003 5:07:28 PM PST by Taxman
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To: SAMWolf
Hiya Sam! Thanks, glad you liked it.
67 posted on 03/22/2003 5:31:11 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: AntiJen
Thanks Jen.

I detest the idiot peacenik/cowardniks. I wish they'd go live in Iraq and discover what's it's like to live in a dictatorship. Then, maybe they would appreciate our country and president and troops.

I agree with you 100%. It is easy to put a show here when their freedoms are protected.

68 posted on 03/22/2003 5:34:36 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Taxman
I sure am transfixed by this "Shock and Awe" campaign, and find myself wishing that LBJ had fired Robert McNamara and told his Generals and Admirals to go kick some NVA ass.

In the May 1996 Proceedings of the U.S. Naval Institute is "The Day It Became The Longest War" by Lieutenant General Charles G. Cooper, U.S. Marine Corps (Retired).

In November, 1965, the Joint Chiefs (Chairman, Army General Earle Wheeler; Army General Harold Johnson; Air Force General John McConnell; Navy Admiral David McDonald; Marine Corps General Wallace Greene, were allowed fifteen minutes standing in a small room of the White House to make their pitch.

They attempted to convince LBJ to bomb Hanoi and mine Haiphong. They failed.

President Johnson turned his back on them for a minute or so, then suddenly, losing the calm, patient demeanor he had maintained throughout the meeting, he whirled to face them and exploded.

I almost dropped the map. He screamed obscenities, he cursed them personally, he ridiculed them for coming to his office with their "military advice." Noting that it was he who was carrying the weight of the free world on his shoulders, he called them filthy names--sh__heads, dumbsh__s, pompous assh___s--and used "the F-word" as an adjective more freely than a Marine at boot camp. He then accused them of trying to pass the buck for World War III to him. It was unnerving. It was degrading.

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But had General Wheeler and the others been given a fair hearing, and had their recommendations been given serious study, it is entirely possible that 55,000 or so of America's sons would not have been killed in a war that its major architect, Robert Strange McNamara, now considers to have been a tragic mistake.

In my view, had Goldwater been elected in 1964 (and I went door-to-door for him and saw America wanted a welfare state not an engine for freedom) Ho Chi Minh would be hanging next to Osama and Saddam as Satan asks if he should throw more water on the rocks.

May LBJ and McNamara be too hot to respond.

69 posted on 03/22/2003 5:45:40 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Taxman
I'm sure you passed right by dh at some point, as he, too, was at Tailhook '91.

Everything that you have said in this thread, is almost verbatim, what dh swears occurred. So many good, decent men took the fall for that @(#^%@(!!!

As for the mass exodus during the Clintoon regime, I can attest to that, as well. We decided the community was simply becoming too unsafe for dh to have fun anymore, so we got out in '98. After Bush was elected, morale lifted through the roof, and yes...*many* of our fellow squadronmates (especially the furloughed ones) are "back in."
70 posted on 03/22/2003 6:18:24 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
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To: SAMWolf; AntiJen; Victoria Delsoul; E.G.C.

During World War II, Corsair pilots downed 2,140 Japanese aircraft, achieving a kill ratio of 11:1.


Perhaps the most famous squadron in the history of aviation was the VMF-214 Black Sheep, pictured here in a 1943 publicity photograph. The pilots wear hats given to the squadron by the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team, and those holding bats are aces with five or more aerial kills. Major Gregory Boyington, the squadron’s colorful skipper, is pictured tenth from the right.


Lieutenant Commander Joseph C. Clifton passes out celebratory cigars in the ready room aboard USS Saratoga (CV-3) following a successful strike against Rabaul, 3 November 1943.


An F4U-1 of VF-17 catches a wire aboard USS Bunker Hill (CV-17) during July 1943. The "Jolly Rogers" were one of the squadrons that initially evaluated the Corsair as a carrier-based fighter.


Marine F4U Corsair being launched from the USS Essex for strikes on Iwo Jima (US Navy photo by Bill Wade, AG-4).


F4U Corsair


Marine Corps F-4U Corsair

71 posted on 03/22/2003 6:29:15 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: SAMWolf
The cigars on Saratoga (CV-3) above are of interest to me.

My dad served on Saratoga and my most excellent Christmas present was a flattop with crank-up elevators and die-cast Corsairs with foldup wings.

The living room was a Jap-free zone make no mistake.

72 posted on 03/22/2003 6:33:03 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo; SAMWolf
Good stuff, Phil, thanks.

You are getting better than Sam, hehehe.
73 posted on 03/22/2003 6:35:20 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Taxman
Thanks you for yours.

Too bad the politicians tried to micro-manage that war.
74 posted on 03/22/2003 6:36:11 PM PST by SAMWolf (We can count on the French to be there when they need us.)
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To: PhilDragoo
Good Evening Phildragoo.

Great pics of the Corsair.
75 posted on 03/22/2003 6:38:59 PM PST by SAMWolf (We can count on the French to be there when they need us.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul; PhilDragoo
Yep, PhilDragoo contributes some great suff to the Foxhole threads.

76 posted on 03/22/2003 6:40:54 PM PST by SAMWolf (We can count on the French to be there when they need us.)
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To: SAMWolf
Oh, I like him too.
77 posted on 03/22/2003 6:48:32 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: PhilDragoo
Thanks for the insights. I'll have to read the General's book.

I'd have to be restrained if I ever passed by Mr. McNamara -- I don't often lust to punch people in the nose, but his is a nose I'd glady punch, even though he is now a feeble old man.

And, I'll wager that LBJ's grave is real soggy, what with all the Vietnam Vets who visit it and "leave their mark!"
78 posted on 03/22/2003 7:12:59 PM PST by Taxman
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
And the real story of Tailhook '91 never got told, except at the bars and in the ready rooms.

You are right -- one failed female aviator ruined the careers of many men far better than she ever would or could be, either as a human being, a Naval Officer or a Naval Aviator. She caused, by aiding and abetting the PC crowd and allowing them to virtually take the Navy over, roughly 10 years of extreme privation and hardship for a lot of very good men and women who were truly concerned about the future of Naval Aviation. I don't think we are out of the PC woods just yet, but I can sense that things are better.

And, she took the money and ran -- $6 mil, or thereabouts, when it was all said and done! What does Rush say? "Follow the money?"

Thank dh for his service, and thank you for yours. Being the wife of a Naval Aviator is more difficult than being the Naval Aviator. Just ask my first ex-wife! She'll tell you all about it!

One gathers that y'all are now flying the FRiendly skies FRom your WPB domicile?
79 posted on 03/22/2003 7:30:08 PM PST by Taxman
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To: PhilDragoo
Thanks for the memories.

When I was in the 5th and 6th grade, I had my own squadron of Corsairs -- 12 Monogram SpeediBilts -- hanging FRom the ceiling of my room, in formation. I sure wish I had bought 24 (they cost like a buck or so!), built 12 and kept the other 12 boxes unopened!
80 posted on 03/22/2003 7:33:57 PM PST by Taxman
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