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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers "Little Friends" - USAAF Fighter Escorts - Dec. 11th, 2002
http://www.cebudanderson.com/europe.htm ^ | Scott Richardson

Posted on 12/11/2002 5:40:07 AM PST by SAMWolf

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To: SAMWolf

121 posted on 12/11/2002 11:57:42 AM PST by MistyCA
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To: Aura Of The Blade
It's Veteran related.....that is the only requirement here...although, truthfully, that isn't even always a requirement! :)
122 posted on 12/11/2002 11:59:27 AM PST by MistyCA
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To: ODC-GIRL

Welcome to Free Republic and to the Foxhole! I can relate to so much in your post especially your pride in serving during the Reagan/Bush years and disgust for the draft-dodging, pot-smoking, womanizing Clintoon.

Thanks so much for 'unretiring' and serving our country again. Homeland defense is such an important role and I'm thankful there are people like you who are serving to keep our country safe.

123 posted on 12/11/2002 12:00:19 PM PST by Jen
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To: Aura Of The Blade
30 million? Wow! I didn't know that either. Vietnam is a little before my time.
124 posted on 12/11/2002 12:02:54 PM PST by Jen
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
My personal opinion:

How do today's veterans compare America's military focus to that of 40 years ago?

**40 years ago the U.S was geared up for a major land war in Europe against the Warsaw Pact. Today the focus seems to be Rapid Deployment to hot spots and being a "police" force.

How has it changed over the last year?

**Based on reports and news stories, the military seems to be split between fighting a "war" in the conventional meaning of the word and using "SWAT" tactics. I've believe in some cases our military is being misused as an "police force", searching and detaining people is not the militay's primary job. It should be destroying the enemy and occupying the enemies ground not playing "police".

How many of our previous administration's mistakes are/were recognized by the general public?

**Not enough. I've found too many people have no clue about Foreign Affairs.

How do you feel about the manner in which the Leftists are defending Iraq's rights and how do you think the nation is reacting?

**The Leftists will always crawl out from under thier rocks to protest anything the Military or a Republican Administration does. I believe this time they're marginalized and that the majority of people back what the adminstration is doing. The press once again is focusing on the protestors.

How did the nation, media, congress react 40 years ago?

**I think there was a no "PC" in the media and Congress 40 years ago. We recognized our enemies and didn't waste time trying to "understand" them or "see their side". For the most part the Nation was ready to do what was necessary to defend itself.
125 posted on 12/11/2002 12:19:35 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: MistyCA
It's veteran related....that is the only requirement here

Sounds like a winner to me.

126 posted on 12/11/2002 12:20:40 PM PST by Aura Of The Blade
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To: Jaidyn
Thank your son for his service! We are all very proud of him! :)
127 posted on 12/11/2002 12:22:00 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: txzman
The P-47 was one of America's leading fighter airplanes of WW II. It made its initial flight on May 6, 1941, but the first production article was not delivered to the AAF until March 18, 1942, more than three months after the attack on Pearl Harbor. On April 8, 1943, the P-47 flew its first combat mission, taking off from England for a sweep over western Europe. During the next several months, AAF pilots learned that the Thunderbolt could out-dive any Luftwaffe airplane encountered. An auxilary fuel tank was suspended under the fuselage beginning in 1943, permitting the P-47 to escort AAF heavy bombers much farther into German territory.

In addition to establishing an impressive record as a high-altitude escort fighter, the P-47 gained recognition as a low-level fighter-bomber because of its ability to absorb battle damage and keep flying. By the end of the war, the Thunderbolt had been used in every active war theater with the exception of Alaska. In addition to serving with the AAF, some were flown in action by the British, Free French, Russians, Mexicans, and Brazilians.

128 posted on 12/11/2002 12:23:11 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: TigersEye
That cartoon is so funny and so is the web site. Thanks for posting - I had a good laugh! hahahahahaha
129 posted on 12/11/2002 12:23:39 PM PST by Jen
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To: AntiJen
30 million? Wow! I didn't know that either

It would be interesting to know if that over 30 million figure is accurate regarding huey/slick missions flown.

130 posted on 12/11/2002 12:26:25 PM PST by Aura Of The Blade
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To: AntiJen

131 posted on 12/11/2002 12:27:19 PM PST by GailA
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To: GailA
Wow, Gail! You find the best graphics! I love that one! :) Thanks for posting it here!
132 posted on 12/11/2002 12:34:05 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: Chad Fairbanks
The spoon'll run away from my coffee.
Sugar and creamer are repelled by it, as are most Columbians.
No wonder I'm banned from making the coffee.
133 posted on 12/11/2002 12:42:25 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: AntiJen; SAMWolf; Tumbleweed_Connection; Jaidyn; MistyCA
Thank you all for your replies. I have really enjoyed lurking here and hope to post more often, as time allows. Sometimes you think that you don't have anything important to say, then a post comes up and you finally feel the need to contribute something from your own experience.

I have to admit I'm baffled by how quickly some in this country returned to their divisive, anti-American sentiments and how many are willing to put up with it.

Jaidyn, we have C-130's in our unit and I know several loadmasters. They are working harder than ever these days, but truly love what they do.

Thanks again.


134 posted on 12/11/2002 12:43:08 PM PST by ODC-GIRL
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To: AntiJen
You know what's really sick?
I actually MISS the MRE's....
135 posted on 12/11/2002 12:43:56 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: MistyCA


A Mk IX Spitfire of No. 315 (Polish) squadron escorts a battle damaged B-17 of the 100th Bomb Group across the English Channel. Gaby Gabreski flew with 315 sqdn. as an exchange pilot, and later, 315 commander Tadeusz Sawicz flew with Gabreski's 61st. fighter squadron.

The Brits also provided Escort for U.S. bombers. However they were not long range fighters and provided the protection for the first leg of the mission or the last leg on the way home.

136 posted on 12/11/2002 12:46:08 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: All
"A WISCONSIN MAN!!

Each year I am hired to go to Washington, DC, with the eighth grade class from Clinton, WI, where I grew up, to videotape their trip. I greatly enjoy visiting our nation's capitol, and each year I take some special memories back with me. This fall's trip was especially memorable.

On the last night of our trip we stopped at the Iwo Jima Memorial.
This memorial is the largest bronze statue in the world and depicts one of the most famous photographs in history-that of the six brave soldiers raising the American Flag at the top of a rocky hill on the island of Iwo Jima, Japan, during WW II.
Over one hundred students and chaperones piled off the buses and headed towards the memorial.
I noticed a solitary figure at the base of the statue, and as I got closer he asked, "Where are you guys from?"

I told him that we were from Wisconsin.

"Hey, I'm a cheesehead, too! Come gather around Cheeseheads, and I will tell you a story."

(James Bradley just happened to be in Washington, DC, to speak at the memorial the following day. He was there that night to say good night to his dad, who has since passed away. He was just about to leave when he saw the buses pull up.
I videotaped him as he spoke to us, and received his permission to share what he said from my videotape.
It is one thing to tour the incredible monuments filled with history in Washington, D.C., but it is quite another to get the kind of insight we received that night. When all had gathered around he reverently began to speak. Here are his words that night.)

"My name is James Bradley and I'm from Antigo, Wisconsin. My dad is on that statue, and I just wrote a book called "Flags of Our Fathers" which is #5 on the New York Times Best Seller list right now.
It is the story of the six boys you see behind me.
Six boys raised the flag.

The first guy putting the pole in the ground is Harlon Block. Harlon was an all-state football player.
He enlisted in the Marine Corps with all the senior members of his football team. They were off to play another type of game. A game called "War."

But it didn't turn out to be a game. Harlon, at the age of 21, died with his intestines in his hands.
I don't say that to gross you out, I say that because there are generals who stand in front of this statue and talk about the glory of war. You guys need to know that most of the boys in Iwo Jima were 17, 18, and 19 years old.

(He pointed to the statue) You see this next guy?
That's Rene Gagnon from New Hampshire. If you took Rene's helmet off at the moment this photo was taken, and looked in the webbing of that helmet, you would find a photograph---a photograph of his girlfriend. Rene put that in there for protection, because he was scared. He was 18 years old.
Boys won the battle of Iwo Jima. Boys. Not old men.

The next guy here, the third guy in this tableau, was Sergeant Mike Strank.
Mike is my hero. He was the hero of all these guys. They called him the "old man" because he was so old. He was already 24.
When Mike would motivate his boys in training camp, he didn't say, "Let's go kill some Japanese" or "Let's die for our country." He knew he was talking to little boys. Instead he would say, "You do what I say, and I'll get you home to your mothers."

The last guy on this side of the statue is Ira Hayes, a Pima Indian from Arizona.
Ira Hayes walked off Iwo Jima. He went into the White House with my dad. President Truman told him, "You're a hero."
He told reporters, "How can I feel like a hero when 250 of my buddies hit the island with me and only 27 of us walked off alive?"
So you take your class at school. 250 of you spending a year together having fun, doing everything together. Then all 250 of you hit the beach, but only 27 of your classmates walk off alive.
That was Ira Hayes. He had images of horror in his mind. Ira Hayes died dead drunk, face down at the age of 32...ten years after this picture was taken.

The next guy, going around the statue, is Franklin Sousley from Hilltop kentucky.
A fun-lovin' hillbilly boy. His best friend, who is now 70, told me, "Yeah, you know, we took two cows up on the porch of the Hilltop General Store. Then we strung wire across the stairs so the cows couldn't get down. Then we fed them Epsom salts. Those cows crapped all night."
Yes he was a fun-lovin' hillbilly boy.
Franklin died on Iwo Jima at the age of 19. When the telegram came to tell his mother that he was dead, it went to the Hilltop General Store. A barefoot boy ran that telegram up to his mother's farm. The neighbors could hear her scream all night and into the morning.
The neighbors lived a quarter of a mile away.

The next guy, as we continue to go around the statue is my dad, John Bradley from Antigo, Wisconsin, where I was raised.
My dad lived until 1994, but he would never give interviews. When Walter Cronkite's producers, or the New York Times would call, we were trained as little kids to say, "No, I'm sorry sir, my dad's not here. He is in Canada fishing.
No, there is no phone there, sir. No, we don't know when he is coming back."

My dad never fished or even went to Canada. Usually, he was sitting there right at the table eating his Campbell's soup. But we had to tell the press that he was out fishing. He didn't want to talk to the press.

You see, my dad didn't see himself as a hero. Everyone thinks these guys are heroes, 'cause they are in a photo and a monument. My dad knew better.
He was a medic. John Bradley from Wisconsin was a caregiver. In Iwo Jima he probably held over 200 boys as they died.
And when boys died in Iwo Jima, they writhed and screamed in pain.

When I was a little boy, my third grade teacher told me that my dad was a hero.
When I went home and told my dad that, he looked at me and said, "I want you always to remember that the heroes of Iwo Jima are the guys who did not come back. Did NOT come back."

So that's the story about six nice young boys. Three died on Iwo Jima, and three came back as national heroes.
Overall 7000 boys died on Iwo Jima in the worst battle in the history of the Marine Corps. My voice is giving out, so I will end here.
Thank you for your time."

Suddenly, the monument wasn't just a big old piece of metal with a flag sticking out of the top.
It came to life before our eyes with the heartfelt words of a son who did indeed have a father who was a hero.
Maybe not a hero for the reasons most people would believe, but a hero none-the-less.

We need to remember that God created this vast and glorious world for us to live in, freely, but also at great sacrifice. Let us never forget from the revolutionary War to the Gulf War and all the wars in-between that sacrifice was made for our freedom.
Remember to pray praises for this great country of ours and also pray for those still in murderous unrest around the world.
STOP, and thank God for being alive at someone else's sacrifice. God Bless!"

137 posted on 12/11/2002 12:48:14 PM PST by TexasCowboy
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To: Darksheare
LOL! The early ones were actually quite good. Beat the hell out of C-rats!
138 posted on 12/11/2002 12:52:24 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: Joe Brower
I dunno, when I was advance party in my artillery unit.. we needed our coffee by IV just so our mouths could be free with the sailor curses when needed.
139 posted on 12/11/2002 12:52:32 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: TexasCowboy
Great TexasCowboy, lunch is almost over and I'm sitting here with tears in my eyes.
140 posted on 12/11/2002 12:54:24 PM PST by SAMWolf
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