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Meet the M1299, the new Army howitzer with twice the range of the Paladin
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| July 24, 2019
| Jared Keller
Posted on 07/25/2019 3:14:30 PM PDT by PROCON
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To: PROCON
Napoleon said “Artillery kills soldiers”.
I have read that during WWII, more casualties were inflicted by artillery than anything else.
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posted on
07/25/2019 3:55:39 PM PDT
by
yarddog
To: yarddog
42
posted on
07/25/2019 3:56:02 PM PDT
by
Ancesthntr
("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
To: IronJack
A caliber in artillery is equal to the bore diameter.therefore a 155mm/58caliber gun would have a tube 6”x58 or 29 feet long.
That's a rifle,not a howitzer.
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posted on
07/25/2019 3:57:53 PM PDT
by
Farmer Dean
(168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
To: reg45
So caliber has nothing to do with bore diameter?
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posted on
07/25/2019 3:58:35 PM PDT
by
Bonemaker
(invictus maneo)
To: Ancesthntr
Thanks. I read some where that the Paris gun’s shells were the first man made object to enter space.
45
posted on
07/25/2019 3:59:18 PM PDT
by
yarddog
To: ModelBreaker
Is caliber for howitzers different than caliber for firearms?Yes, see post #32
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posted on
07/25/2019 4:01:20 PM PDT
by
PROCON
('Progressive' is a Euphemism for <strike>Totalitarian</strike> COMMUNIST)
To: IronJack; PROCON
“A 58 caliber tube” probably refers to the length of the tube stated in by the number of times it is long divided by the diameter of the barrel. Thus a 6 inch in diameter gun (aka 155mm) that is 58 calibers is 348 inches or 29 feet in length. Naval guns are often referred to this way 5/34 meaning 5 inch in diameter with the length being 34 times the diameter.
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posted on
07/25/2019 4:02:48 PM PDT
by
GreyFriar
(Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
To: ModelBreaker
See posts 32 and 47 for the answer.
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posted on
07/25/2019 4:05:07 PM PDT
by
GreyFriar
(Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
To: IronJack
see posts 32 and 47 for explanations of gun diameter size and barrel length regarding ‘caliber’ measurement. Once one goes from hand guns to artillery, there is a major difference in expressing diameter vs length using the word ‘caliber.’
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posted on
07/25/2019 4:08:19 PM PDT
by
GreyFriar
(Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
To: Bonemaker
Bore size is caliber. So the true statement wold 155mm x 58 = tube length
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posted on
07/25/2019 4:08:48 PM PDT
by
Kadric
To: IronJack
Post #32 clarifies artillery caliber.
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posted on
07/25/2019 4:08:59 PM PDT
by
PROCON
('Progressive' is a Euphemism for <strike>Totalitarian</strike> COMMUNIST)
To: doorgunner69
The 175s and 155s hurt when they fired over you.
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posted on
07/25/2019 4:09:39 PM PDT
by
mountainlion
(Live well for those that did not make it back.)
To: MrEdd
We Army artillery trainees had Marine artillery trainees in the adjacent barracks at Fort Sill, OK.
Man, that Marine D.I. would give those poor Marines hell when they weren't in classroom training.
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posted on
07/25/2019 4:14:59 PM PDT
by
PROCON
('Progressive' is a Euphemism for <strike>Totalitarian</strike> COMMUNIST)
To: ModelBreaker
I see 155 mm and 58 caliber tube. In the article. Can you explain how those fit together in the same vehicle?? Is caliber for howitzers different than caliber for firearms?
"58 caliber tube" refers to the length of the tube. It is 58 times as long as the nominal diameter, 155mm.
To: Bonemaker
“Now all we have to do is get enough capable people to man them.”
As a former gun Bunny all I can imagine is that now the gun bunnies will have more opportunities to shoot outside the range.
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posted on
07/25/2019 4:21:56 PM PDT
by
Psycho_Runner
(Have a good day, unless you have other plans.)
To: Kadric
Then why are the common artillery pieces 75, 105, 155mm etc referred to as such rather than by caliber?
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posted on
07/25/2019 4:23:41 PM PDT
by
Bonemaker
(invictus maneo)
To: BBQToadRibs
Both the Army and the Navy have been working for some time on GPS and laser terminal guidance for 5 in/155mm projectiles to address the accuracy problems you mention.
With that kind of range and automated loading systems, you can imagine some pretty wicked TOT set ups with a single weapon system firing a battery-equivalent fire mission. Hope they made barrel replacement easier, they are going to need it.
Interesting to see the new system still mounted on the M109 chassis. Wonder if that is for development purposes only or if the Army feels the M109 still fills the bill for mobility and reliability.
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posted on
07/25/2019 4:25:50 PM PDT
by
Captain Rhino
(Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
To: Bonemaker
Then why are the common artillery pieces 75, 105, 155mm etc referred to as such rather than by caliber?155mm, 105mm, etc refers to diameter of the projectile.
Example: 155mm/25.4mm (1") = 6.1" diameter projectile.
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posted on
07/25/2019 4:29:33 PM PDT
by
PROCON
('Progressive' is a Euphemism for <strike>Totalitarian</strike> COMMUNIST)
To: Bonemaker
Diameter of the Bore, not the projectile.
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posted on
07/25/2019 4:35:13 PM PDT
by
PROCON
('Progressive' is a Euphemism for <strike>Totalitarian</strike> COMMUNIST)
To: BBQToadRibs
I wonder what accuracy is at that range with so many variables on that length/arc of a flight path. These can be fired with the M1156 Precision Guidance Kit (screw in fuze with GPS guidance and control surfaces for in-flight corrections); so pretty damned accurate.
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