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I though that the part about the 93 year old getting the defib was an apparent planted statement to defend a specific charge against Obama.

Remember back, I think it was during the campaign, when this woman stood up in some kind of a town hall and told this story about her mother who had gone on and gotten a pacemaker at 95, and then had gone on to have 10 more good, active years?

That seemed to me to be the point of the 93 year old defib patient...right after that spot, Dr. Death starts advocating for what I can only describe as “zero tolerance” when it comes to such operations on people of a certain, yet undefined, age. He specifically said that he wished they could just give the blanket statement that they didnt do “this proceedure” for someone of that age, without taking quality of life, or level of activity into question. I couldn’t help thinking about zero tolerance policies in schools, wherein if there is a fight, the principal doesn’t want to have to deal with who started it, or why, but rather just suspends both kids because fighting is “bad”.

This to me represents a step beyond a death panel; its more of a mandatory age limit. Logans run here we come. I have to believe that its because with the massive push for cradle to grave government dependance, they’ve run the numbers and figured out that one way to keep costs down is to move up the finish line as much as they can. The glory days of social security were back when very few people lived to collect more than a few years worth of checks. Is it so far fetched to believe that rather than admit the failure of the plan, they would rather just take us back to the good old days when there weren’t that many old people around?


36 posted on 11/22/2009 7:39:56 PM PST by SoCalTransplant (Old and Busted: Republican or Democrat? New Hotness: American or World Citizen?)
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rofl I agree I don’t really think real Americans will stand for doctors telling them when their family members have to leave. Most people who end up in the hospital want to leave anyway, its not like we are just begging doctors to let us stay, we just want to get better and then leave! Then when theres people who really really need to stay or they won’t live, the doctors say “society can’t afford you! you have to get out and go die”!

And then what do they propose they do about all our families, when they kick them out on the streets because some government death zar is in charge? Are we supposed to just take themn home and just deal with it? For being all about helping out the poor, those liberals really don’t think things thru - isn’t having really really unhealthy people in your house all the time kind of dangerous? I had a friend who said that when her dad, tom, died, he and her grandma had a siezure and knocked over a coat rack and they had to sedate him with drugs. He was really old and all she wanted to do was help him but she is just a girl, how can she fight a 140 pound man, even really old?? Imagine if the democrats had their way and Dr. Death got to throw him out on his butt, he would probably end up at home with them in her living room or something, assuming they didnt just kill him right then and there. and he was really really scary after a year ago, she said he had had a stroke and would shout at her and called her some other name, and anyway he probably would have ended up turning over his dinner plate and burning the house down or something then. And are the democrats gonna wanna pay for that when that stuff starts happening!? When we have to keep old dying people around our house until they keel over or get us all killed?
Anyway she said that then, because of what he did, the doctors wanted to charge her family for a tv and a chair that got broken. Why should we give our taxes to these people when they nickel and dime us for everything they can think of already anyway? I mean people have to die and yeah thats sad and everything, but its not fair that rich people with lawyers can sue the hospital whenever they want and the hospital has to pay them, and thats all ok, but we have to pay the hospital whenever they say so. Maybe there should be a death panel for all the lawyers, that would kill two birds with one stone!


38 posted on 11/23/2009 4:42:04 AM PST by BuckleySkoolMascot (Cost of dying piece)
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