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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - The British Valentine Tank Feb. 14, 2006
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Posted on 02/13/2006 8:35:48 PM PST by alfa6



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THE VALENTINE TANK



Based on the A10 Cruiser tank, the Valentine was privately designed by the Vickers-Armstrong corporation (hence its lack of an "A" designation) and was submitted to the War Office on February 14, 1938. Like many other projects, the Valentine was rushed into production following the loss of nearly all of Britain's equipment during the evacuation at Dunkirk.

Several versions exist concerning the source of the name Valentine. The most popular one says that the design was presented to the War Office at St. Valentine's Day (February 14). Some sources, however, claim that the exact date the design was submitted was February 10. According to other version, the tank was called Valentine in honor of Sir John Valentine Carden, the man who led the development of the A10 and many other Vickers vehicles. Yet another version says that Valentine is an acronym for Vickers-Armstrong Ltd Elswick & Newcastle-upon-Tyne.



The War Office was initially deterred by the size of the turret and the crew compartment. However, concerned by the situation in Europe, it finally approved the design in April 1939. The vehicle reached trials in May 1940, which coincided with the loss of nearly all of Britain's equipment during the evacuation at Dunkirk. The trials were successfull and the vehicle was rushed into production as Infantry Tank III Valentine.

The Valentine remained in production until April 1944, becoming Britain's most mass produced tank during the war with 6855 units manufactured in the UK (by Vickers, Metropolitan-Cammell Carriage and Wagon and Birmingham Railway Carriage and Wagon) and further 1420 in Canada. They were the Commonwealth's main export to the Soviet Union under the Lend-lease Act, with 2394 of the British models being sent and 1388 of the Canadian (the remaining 30 were kept for training).



The Valentine was Britain's most mass produced tank during the war, having manufactured 6855 and a further 1420 in Canada. They were the Commonwealth's main export to the Soviet Union under the Lend-lease Act, with 2394 of the British models being sent and 1388 of the Canadian (the remaining 30 were kept for training). In Soviet service, they were quite popular due to their small size, reliability, and generally good armour protection. In Soviet service, the Valentine was used from the Battle of Moscow until the end of the war. It was employed mostly on the southern fronts, both because of the proximity to the Persian supply route and in order to avoid using the tank in very cold climate. Although criticized for its speed and its weak gun, the Valentine was liked due to its small size, reliability and generally good armour protection.

The Valentine was something of an oddity, having the weight and size of a cruiser tank, but the armour and speed of an infantry tank. Though its armour was still weaker than the Matilda and, due to its weaker engine, it shared the same top speed, its high reliability and lower cost kept it in the war.



By 1944, in the European Theater of Operations the Valentine was almost competely replaced in the frontline units by the Churchill and the US-made Sherman. In the Pacific the tank was employed in limited numbers at least until May 1945.

There were 12 variants of the Valentine as follows:



Valentine I (350)
The first model of the Valentine, it was not sent out due to problems from rushed production. It was equipped with a 2 pdr. gun and a coaxial machine gun. Its cramped turret forced the commander to also act as the guns loader. It used a 135 hp gasoline engine.

Valentine II (700)
This model used a 131 hp diesel engine in order to increase its range. It first saw combat during Operation Crusader, at which point it began to replace the Matilda.

Valentine III
A larger turret was installed, allowing the addition of a dedicated loader to ease the duties of the commander.

Valentine IV
A II using an American 138hp GMC diesel engine. Though it had slightly lower range, it was more silent and reliable.

Valentine V
Valentine III with the American GMC engine.



Valentine VI
A Valentine built solely in Canada. It used a cast hull and a Browning machine gun in place of the Besa.

Valentine VII
Improved version of the VI- it had jettisonable fuel tanks, new tracks and an expanded turret similar to the III. Also built only in Canada.

Valentine VIII
A III upgraded with the QF 6 pdr gun. In order to fit it, the coaxial machine gun and the loader crewmember had to be removed. The side armour was made thinner to reduce weight.

Valentine IX
A V upgraded to the 6 pdr. gun. Similar reductions as the VIII.

Valentine X
A new turret design and better 165hp GMC engine. A coaxial machine gun could be fitted again. Also used welded construction.

Valentine XI
An X upgraded with the OQF 75mm gun. Only served as a command tank.



Valentine DD
Valentines fitted with Straussler's Duplex Drive. Used by crews in training for the Sherman DD's of the Normandy Landings.


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To: snippy_about_it

That link will do provided you are still in Texas?


581 posted on 03/06/2006 8:25:14 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it

Yep, I found that link. Did you read it? LOL

It says most newspapers publish the locations. Heh. Ours doesn't have it online - and I didn't buy one this week. ~sigh~ *banging head* [dummy!]

I am just going to go to the place I used to go... I am now giving up looking. LOL... I will go to the old place and either - A) they will tell me where I should be or B) I will end up having to call the county and vote after work instead of before work.

calling the county doesn't work well here either. they tend to not know much. ~sigh~

Heh... the first time I went to a precint convention the election judge was shocked that someone showed up. I think the guy at the old regular location will remember me. I always showed up before I spent 4 years away from the area.


582 posted on 03/06/2006 8:27:10 PM PST by Wneighbor (I have come to race, NO RESTRICTOR PLATES!!!)
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To: Wneighbor

LOL. We miss ya up here, though. You know, there is a list approved/endorsed by the Texas Homschool Coalition? Think I may check it out and just see what's up. I haven't heard squat about what were supposedly voting for or against in the primary. BTW, we have to vote in the "city" next to us, which is the sticks. Ever heard of Lucas or Lovejoy? I am not even sure Loevjoy exists as a community anymore. I think all that may be left of it is the school district. Anyway, that is where we vote. Lovejoy ISD.


583 posted on 03/06/2006 8:44:16 PM PST by Peanut Gallery
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To: w_over_w
25. On February 8-24, 2002, Salt Lake City will host the XIX Olympic Winter Games.

I'm really looking forward to that. Do you think you can get tickets yet?

Cedar Hills is built upon an alluvial fan or bench, created thousands of years ago when it was a shoreline

Alluvial fans are NOT ancient beaches.

Here's a good candidate for first Department Store from NYC: "In 1862 Stewart built a true department store at Broadway and 9th near Grace Church, the Cast Iron Palace, with 8 floors on 2.5 acres, up to 2000 employees. The 19 departments included "silks" and "dress goods" and carpets and toys and sports. A great glass dome skylight covered the central rotunda of the grand emporium." http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/soc/shoppingcenter4.html

Most of the big name department stores had an earlier history as specialty shops. Wanamaker in men's wear, Neiman Marcus for ladies wear, etc.

As for Zions, it opened March 1, 1869 (it was at least a contender) but the claim seems to be for the 'First Incorporated Department Store" in 1870.

But it appears that ZMCI may have bitten the dust - it looks like it was bought out by May in 1999 and the name was discarded in favor of Meier & Frank.

584 posted on 03/07/2006 1:52:57 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Wneighbor

Very cool, this is the stuff I'm looking forward to learning along with the kids as they grow up.


585 posted on 03/07/2006 4:55:34 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Ground Zero - microscopic and colossal at the same time.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Professional Engineer; Valin; bentfeather; w_over_w; Wneighbor; PAR35; ...
Phabulous Phantom bump for the Freeper Foxhole this fine Tuesday mornin'

I am hoping to get the new solar clothes drying device installed for Mrs alfa6 this morning. Provided the rain holds off :-)

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

586 posted on 03/07/2006 5:29:38 AM PST by alfa6
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To: Wneighbor; snippy_about_it; bentfeather; Samwise; Peanut Gallery; Valin; alfa6; Iris7; SAMWolf; ...
Good morning ladies and gents. Flag-o-Gram.


587 posted on 03/07/2006 6:23:52 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Ground Zero - microscopic and colossal at the same time.)
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To: snippy_about_it; w_over_w; Wneighbor
All I think about when I think about Utah is the Great Salt Lake and Mormons. Nothing else comes to mind.

I'm stunned. Stunned, I tell ya'.

How could you forget this?


588 posted on 03/07/2006 6:39:37 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Ground Zero - microscopic and colossal at the same time.)
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To: Professional Engineer

First thing bittygirl uttered upon waking was, "I want daddy."

Just thought you should know you are loved :-)


589 posted on 03/07/2006 6:44:12 AM PST by Peanut Gallery
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To: Professional Engineer

Oh my. I had forgotten.


590 posted on 03/07/2006 6:51:25 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Professional Engineer; Peanut Gallery; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; w_over_w; alfa6; Wneighbor; ...
Good morning FOXHOLE!

591 posted on 03/07/2006 6:51:34 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: Professional Engineer

heh, she's playing with the stupid turtle... again. Who was it replaced the batteries?


592 posted on 03/07/2006 7:15:52 AM PST by Peanut Gallery
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To: snippy_about_it

Snippy, take deep breaths and stretch!

593 posted on 03/07/2006 8:21:30 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: bentfeather
Hi miss Feather.

Bittygirl woke early this morning, banging her bottle on the bars of her cell crib, saying, "Daddy, du bai, du bai."

594 posted on 03/07/2006 9:33:02 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Ground Zero - microscopic and colossal at the same time.)
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To: Peanut Gallery

Spiderboy?


595 posted on 03/07/2006 9:33:23 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Ground Zero - microscopic and colossal at the same time.)
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To: snippy_about_it

Memory is the second thing to go, what was the first?


596 posted on 03/07/2006 9:34:21 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Ground Zero - microscopic and colossal at the same time.)
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To: Professional Engineer; Peanut Gallery

Yes, I have forgotten what this means in Bittygirl talk. ;)

Bottle??


597 posted on 03/07/2006 9:37:42 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: bentfeather

New bottle, new bottle


598 posted on 03/07/2006 11:32:09 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Ground Zero - microscopic and colossal at the same time.)
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To: bentfeather; Peanut Gallery

I just learned how to get a semicolon and other html symbols to show up on the blackburpy!


599 posted on 03/07/2006 11:50:42 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Ground Zero - microscopic and colossal at the same time.)
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To: Professional Engineer
Oh man, you are just slaving away, ain't ya?? LOL
600 posted on 03/07/2006 11:52:47 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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