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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - The British Valentine Tank Feb. 14, 2006
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Posted on 02/13/2006 8:35:48 PM PST by alfa6



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THE VALENTINE TANK



Based on the A10 Cruiser tank, the Valentine was privately designed by the Vickers-Armstrong corporation (hence its lack of an "A" designation) and was submitted to the War Office on February 14, 1938. Like many other projects, the Valentine was rushed into production following the loss of nearly all of Britain's equipment during the evacuation at Dunkirk.

Several versions exist concerning the source of the name Valentine. The most popular one says that the design was presented to the War Office at St. Valentine's Day (February 14). Some sources, however, claim that the exact date the design was submitted was February 10. According to other version, the tank was called Valentine in honor of Sir John Valentine Carden, the man who led the development of the A10 and many other Vickers vehicles. Yet another version says that Valentine is an acronym for Vickers-Armstrong Ltd Elswick & Newcastle-upon-Tyne.



The War Office was initially deterred by the size of the turret and the crew compartment. However, concerned by the situation in Europe, it finally approved the design in April 1939. The vehicle reached trials in May 1940, which coincided with the loss of nearly all of Britain's equipment during the evacuation at Dunkirk. The trials were successfull and the vehicle was rushed into production as Infantry Tank III Valentine.

The Valentine remained in production until April 1944, becoming Britain's most mass produced tank during the war with 6855 units manufactured in the UK (by Vickers, Metropolitan-Cammell Carriage and Wagon and Birmingham Railway Carriage and Wagon) and further 1420 in Canada. They were the Commonwealth's main export to the Soviet Union under the Lend-lease Act, with 2394 of the British models being sent and 1388 of the Canadian (the remaining 30 were kept for training).



The Valentine was Britain's most mass produced tank during the war, having manufactured 6855 and a further 1420 in Canada. They were the Commonwealth's main export to the Soviet Union under the Lend-lease Act, with 2394 of the British models being sent and 1388 of the Canadian (the remaining 30 were kept for training). In Soviet service, they were quite popular due to their small size, reliability, and generally good armour protection. In Soviet service, the Valentine was used from the Battle of Moscow until the end of the war. It was employed mostly on the southern fronts, both because of the proximity to the Persian supply route and in order to avoid using the tank in very cold climate. Although criticized for its speed and its weak gun, the Valentine was liked due to its small size, reliability and generally good armour protection.

The Valentine was something of an oddity, having the weight and size of a cruiser tank, but the armour and speed of an infantry tank. Though its armour was still weaker than the Matilda and, due to its weaker engine, it shared the same top speed, its high reliability and lower cost kept it in the war.



By 1944, in the European Theater of Operations the Valentine was almost competely replaced in the frontline units by the Churchill and the US-made Sherman. In the Pacific the tank was employed in limited numbers at least until May 1945.

There were 12 variants of the Valentine as follows:



Valentine I (350)
The first model of the Valentine, it was not sent out due to problems from rushed production. It was equipped with a 2 pdr. gun and a coaxial machine gun. Its cramped turret forced the commander to also act as the guns loader. It used a 135 hp gasoline engine.

Valentine II (700)
This model used a 131 hp diesel engine in order to increase its range. It first saw combat during Operation Crusader, at which point it began to replace the Matilda.

Valentine III
A larger turret was installed, allowing the addition of a dedicated loader to ease the duties of the commander.

Valentine IV
A II using an American 138hp GMC diesel engine. Though it had slightly lower range, it was more silent and reliable.

Valentine V
Valentine III with the American GMC engine.



Valentine VI
A Valentine built solely in Canada. It used a cast hull and a Browning machine gun in place of the Besa.

Valentine VII
Improved version of the VI- it had jettisonable fuel tanks, new tracks and an expanded turret similar to the III. Also built only in Canada.

Valentine VIII
A III upgraded with the QF 6 pdr gun. In order to fit it, the coaxial machine gun and the loader crewmember had to be removed. The side armour was made thinner to reduce weight.

Valentine IX
A V upgraded to the 6 pdr. gun. Similar reductions as the VIII.

Valentine X
A new turret design and better 165hp GMC engine. A coaxial machine gun could be fitted again. Also used welded construction.

Valentine XI
An X upgraded with the OQF 75mm gun. Only served as a command tank.



Valentine DD
Valentines fitted with Straussler's Duplex Drive. Used by crews in training for the Sherman DD's of the Normandy Landings.


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To: w_over_w

A sheep in beagle's clothing?


41 posted on 02/14/2006 10:12:01 AM PST by Professional Engineer (It's a bunch of hot air, crap flows down hill, and electrons go wherever they darn well please.)
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To: SAMWolf

Okers.
(Hey, it was somewhat before my time.. *chuckle*)


42 posted on 02/14/2006 10:34:49 AM PST by Darksheare (Aim low! They got knees!)
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To: bentfeather

Hi miss Feather.

So, the real question today is: Does Msdrby get a new toaster or a new vacuum cleaner?


43 posted on 02/14/2006 11:09:51 AM PST by Professional Engineer (It's a bunch of hot air, crap flows down hill, and electrons go wherever they darn well please.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Well, which one is needed most??

Could be both, eh??


44 posted on 02/14/2006 12:11:23 PM PST by Soaring Feather (~www.proudpatriots.org~Supporting Our TROOPS~)
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To: w_over_w

heheh! Too funny!


45 posted on 02/14/2006 1:39:19 PM PST by Peanut Gallery
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To: Professional Engineer

maybe a new paint job or new carpet cleANER?

peanut butter sandwich + bittygirl + stairs = ??? (not as bad as it sounds)

BTW, She is still toting around the remainder of the sandwich. We are off to do some clean up and buy some dog food, then K4K, and finally armoire recon.

Daisy says that there is a unfinished furniture place going out of business in Garland.


46 posted on 02/14/2006 1:47:40 PM PST by Peanut Gallery
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To: Peanut Gallery; Professional Engineer; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; w_over_w; alfa6; All

Time to cuddle up. Night John boy!

47 posted on 02/14/2006 7:11:54 PM PST by Soaring Feather (~www.proudpatriots.org~Supporting Our TROOPS~)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Iris7; Valin; PAR35; alfa6; U S Army EOD; Peanut Gallery; USMCBOMBGUY; ...
Evening Grace Folks~

Hermann, Missouri

[Heart of the Missouri Wine Country #41]

Missouri Facts and Trivia

1. Missouri is known as the "Show Me State".

2. The 'Show Me State' expression may have began in 1899 when Congressman Willard Duncan Vandiver stated, "I'm from Missouri and you've got to show me."

3. The first successful parachute jump to be made from a moving airplane was made by Captain Berry at St. Louis, in 1912.

4. The most destructive tornado on record occurred in Annapolis. In 3 hours, it tore through the town on March 18, 1925 leaving a 980-foot wide trail of demolished buildings, uprooted trees, and overturned cars. It left 823 people dead and almost 3,000 injured.

5. At the St. Louis World's Fair in 1904, Richard Blechyden, served tea with ice and invented iced tea.

6. Also, at the St. Louis World's Fair in 1904, the ice cream cone was invented. An ice cream vendor ran out of cups and asked a waffle vendor to help by rolling up waffles to hold ice cream.

7. Missouri ties with Tennessee as the most neighborly state in the union, bordered by 8 states.

8. The state animal is the Mule.

9. St. Louis; is also called, "The Gateway to the West" and "Home of the Blues".

10. Warsaw holds the state record for the low temperature of -40 degrees on February 13, 1905.

11. Warsaw holds the state record for the high temperature recorded, 118 degrees on July 14, 1954.

12. State bird--native Bluebird March 30, 1927

13. State insect--honey bee July 3, 1985

14. Mozarkite was adopted as the official state rock on July 21, 1967, by the 74th General Assembly.

15. On July 21, 1967, the mineral galena was adopted as the official mineral of Missouri.

16. The crinoid became the state's official fossil on June 16, 1989, after a group of Lee's Summit school students worked through the legislative process to promote it as a state symbol.

17. On June 20, 1955, the flowering dogwood (Cornus Florida L.) became Missouri's official tree.

18. The "Missouri Waltz" became the state song under an act adopted by the General Assembly on June 30, 1949

19. The present Capitol completed in 1917 and occupied the following year is the third Capitol in Jefferson City and the sixth in Missouri history. The first seat of state government was housed in the Mansion House, Third and Vine Streets, St. Louis; the second was in the Missouri Hotel, Maine and Morgan Streets, also in St. Louis. St. Charles was designated as temporary capital of the state in 1821 and remained the seat of government until 1826 when Jefferson City became the permanent capital city.

20. The first Capitol in Jefferson City burned in 1837 and a second structure completed in 1840 burned when the dome was struck by lightning on February 5, 1911.

21. Kansas City has more miles of boulevards than Paris and more fountains than any city except Rome.

22. Kansas City has more miles of freeway per capita than any metro area with more than 1 million residents.

23. Jefferson National Expansion Memorial consists of the Gateway Arch, the Museum of Westward Expansion, and St. Louis' Old Courthouse. During a nationwide competition in 1947-48, architect Eero Saarinen's inspired design for a 630-foot stainless steel arch was chosen as a perfect monument to the spirit of the western pioneers. Construction of the Arch began in 1963 and was completed on October 28, 1965. The Arch has foundations sunken 60 feet into the ground, and is built to withstand earthquakes and high winds. It sways up to one inch in a 20 mph wind, and is built to sway up to 18 inches.

24. Saint Louis University received a formal charter from the state of Missouri in 1832, making it the oldest University west of the Mississippi.

25. In 1889, Aunt Jemima pancake flour, invented at St. Joseph, Missouri, was the first self-rising flour for pancakes and the first ready-mix food ever to be introduced commercially.

26. The tallest man in documented medical history was Robert Pershing Wadlow from St. Louis. He was 8 feet, 11.1 inches tall

27. Creve Coeur's name means broken heart in French, comes from nearby Creve Coeur Lake. Legend has it that an Indian princess fell in love with a French fur trapper, but the love was not returned. According to the story, she then leapt from a ledge overlooking Creve Coeur Lake; the lake then formed itself into a broken heart.

28. The most powerful earthquake to strike the United States occurred in 1811, centered in New Madrid, Missouri. The quake shook more than one million square miles, and was felt as far as 1,000 miles away.

29. Anheuser-Busch brewery in St. Louis, Missouri is the largest beer producing plant in the nation.

30. During Abraham Lincoln's campaign for the presidency, a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat named Valentine Tapley from Pike County, Missouri, swore that he would never shave again if Abe were elected. Tapley kept his word and his chin whiskers went unshorn from November 1860 until he died in 1910, attaining a length of twelve feet six inches.

31. President Harry S. Truman was born in Lamar, May 8, 1884.

32. The first train of the Atlantic-Pacific Railway, which became the St.Louis-San Francisco Railway, or "Frisco," arrived in 1870.

33. Callaway County was organized on November 25, 1820 and named for Captain James Callaway who was killed in a fight with Indians near Loutre Creek.

34. Missouri was named after a tribe called Missouri Indians; meaning "town of the large canoes"

35. Situated within a day’s drive of 50% of the U.S. population, Branson and the Tri-Lakes area serves up to 65,000 visitors daily. Branson has been a "rubber tire" destination with the vast majority of tourists arriving by vehicles, RVs and tour buses. Branson has also become one of America’s top motor coach vacation destinations with an estimated 4,000 buses arriving each year.

36. Charleston holds the Dogwood-Azalea Festival annually on the 3rd weekend of April. "Charleston becomes a blooming wonderland."

37. Jefferson City, Missouri, the state's capital, was named for Thomas Jefferson, the third President of the United States.

38. Missouri's oldest community, Saint Genevieve, was founded as early as 1735.

39. In 1812 Missouri was organized as a territory and later admitted the 24th state of the Union on August 10, 1821.

40. In 1865 Missouri became the first slave state to free its slaves.

41. Hermann, Missouri is a storybook German village with a rich wine-making and riverboat history that is proudly displayed in area museums. Built in 1836 as the "New Fatherland" for German settlers, the town has achieved national recognition because of its quality wines and distinctive heritage.

42. Auguste Chouteau founded Saint Louis in 1764.

43. Laura Elizabeth Ingalls, writer of Little House on the Prairie grew up in Missouri.

44. "Madonna of the Trail" monument in Lexington tells the story of the brave women who helped conquer the west and is one of 12 placed in every state crossed by the National Old Trails Road, the route of early settlers from Maryland to California.

45. Soybeans bring in the most cash for Missourians as a crop.

46. Missouri Day is the third Wednesday in October.

47. On Sucker Day in Nixa, Missouri, school closes officially and the little town swells to a throng of 15,000 hungry folks. All craving a taste of the much maligned but delicious bottom dweller fish loathed by almost everyone else.

48. Point of highest elevation: Taum Sauk Mountain, 540 meters (1,772 feet)

49. State folk dance: square dance

50. State musical instrument: fiddle

48 posted on 02/14/2006 7:49:06 PM PST by w_over_w (Don't tell me to go to your BLOG . . . just tell me how your day was.)
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To: PAR35

I dare you to go after #30 and #47. Wait, make that I "double dog" dare you. =)


49 posted on 02/14/2006 7:50:47 PM PST by w_over_w (Don't tell me to go to your BLOG . . . just tell me how your day was.)
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To: bentfeather
Night Ms. Feather . . . I'm off to some Valentine cuddling.

xoxoxox

50 posted on 02/14/2006 7:52:42 PM PST by w_over_w (Don't tell me to go to your BLOG . . . just tell me how your day was.)
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To: w_over_w
29. Anheuser-Busch brewery in St. Louis, Missouri is the largest beer producing plant in the nation.

"the largest brewery on a single site is the Coors Brewing Company of Golden, Colorado. In 1993, Coors brewed 595 million gallons of beer

See also:

"Coors Brewery in Golden, Colorado, the world's largest brewery on a single site, along with Elkton, Virginia and Memphis, Tennessee" http://solutions.ihs.com/intermat/news-coors.jsp

In addition to being the largest brewery, Coors has the world's largest aluminum can manufacturing plant, with a capacity of more than 5 billion cans annually." http://www.win.net/optimator/bf4.htm

Of course, we'll probably all end up drinking Chinese beer from Wal Mart.

"According to Zhujiang Beer Cooperation, it will invest 400 million RMB to build a new brewery in Zhongshan City, that will produce 200,000-tons of beer annually. The first phase of the construction project will kick off next month, and should be complete and operational by June of 2006.

"It is expected that the final phase of construction will be finished in 2008. The Zhujiang Beer Company will boast the largest beer producing center in the world capable of producing 1.5 million-tons per year." http://www.newsgd.com/citiesandtowns/zhongshan/news/200509130034.htm

51 posted on 02/14/2006 8:25:23 PM PST by PAR35
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23. Jefferson National Expansion Memorial consists of the Gateway Arch, the Museum of Westward Expansion, and St. Louis' Old Courthouse. During a nationwide competition in 1947-48, architect Eero Saarinen's inspired design for a 630-foot stainless steel arch was chosen as a perfect monument to the spirit of the western pioneers. Construction of the Arch began in 1963 and was completed on October 28, 1965. The Arch has foundations sunken 60 feet into the ground, and is built to withstand earthquakes and high winds. It sways up to one inch in a 20 mph wind, and is built to sway up to 18 inches.

A couple of other intersting facts about the Gateway Arch.
The insurance companies predicted that the construction would result in 6 to 10 deaths. Actual deaths 0.

To place the keystone in the top of the arch the St. Louis Fire Department was employed. The sun was causing the legs of the Arch to distort from the heat. The Fire Dept used several of it's pumpers and aerials to spray water on the legs so that the keystone would fit.

The Arch was erected by using cranes that crawled up the legs. As each section was installed the crane would move up so that the next section could be installed.

Throought the legs of the Arch vcan be seen the old Busch Stadium which was torn down after the playoffs last fall to make room for a new stadium.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

52 posted on 02/14/2006 8:36:21 PM PST by alfa6
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To: alfa6

Thanks, very interesting how they erected that thing.

Just think, they can't build anything in Buffalo.
What is the rarest bird in Buffalo?










The sky crane.


53 posted on 02/14/2006 8:51:53 PM PST by The Mayor ( Check out my site http://www.rusthompson.com/HomeImprovementandRemodelingTips.html)
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To: The Mayor
Another shot of the now no longer existant Busch Stadium along with a pair of fine Missouri Products :-) The new Stadium is being constructed just beside the old stadium.

BTW I have a son-in-law from Buffalo, I iwll have to ask him about the "skycrane" he he he Regards

alfa6 ;>}

54 posted on 02/14/2006 9:13:04 PM PST by alfa6
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To: w_over_w
"28. The most powerful earthquake to strike the United States occurred in 1811, centered in New Madrid, Missouri. The quake shook more than one million square miles, and was felt as far as 1,000 miles away."

My understanding is that the New Madrid quake was over Richter 8. The surface of the earth came under such a violent horizontal compression that ground water shot up and out from the ground.

Eye witness account written five years afterward:

"..the earth was horribly torn to pieces - the surface of hundreds of acres, was, from time to time, covered over, in various depths, by the sand which issued from the fissures, which were made in great numbers all over this country, some of which closed up immediately after they had vomited forth their sand and water..."

Eye witness writing the day of the quake:.

"There was a great shaking of the earth this morning. Tables and chairs turned over and knocked around - all of us knocked out of bed. The roar I thught would leave us deaf if we lived. It was not a storm. when you could hear, all you cold hear was screams from people and animals. It was the worst thing that I have ever wittnesed. It was still dark and you could not see nothng. I thought the shaking and the loud roaring sound would never stop. You could not hold onto nothing neither man or woman was strong enough - the shaking would knock you lose like knocking hicror nuts out of a tree. I don't know how we lived through it. None of us was killed - we was all banged up and some of us knocked out for awile and blood was every where."

They say thirty feet tall groundwaves. Just like shaking a rug. Mile after mile of every tree knocked down. The whole business was pretty amazing.

55 posted on 02/15/2006 1:13:26 AM PST by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: alfa6
Valentine was a good machine. Outdated by 1942 against the Germans but useful against Japan throughout the war.

The Panzerkampfwagen IV Ausf F2 of later 1942 had a high velocity 75mm L/43 cannon and could engage T34s at reasonable ranges. The PzKpfw III Ausf L/M of 1942 had a high velocity 50mm L/60 gun that could destroy a Valentine easily at maybe 800 yards.

A Valentine was not in the same class as those two machines. The late war English A41 Centurion with it's 17 pounder high velocity gun was a full match for a Tiger. In Korea the Centurion made scrap iron and mincemeat out of T34s easy as fishing. Nearly.

Ain't Google handy? I have forgotten the numbers after all these years, darn.

There is a fully restored, I mean fully restored, Tiger at the RTR. Armor fans owe themselves to visit

Fifty (50) pages with multiple photos per page.

56 posted on 02/15/2006 1:49:23 AM PST by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: alfa6; snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Professional Engineer; Peanut Gallery; Samwise; Valin; w_over_w

Good morning everyone.
What a way to spend the day!

57 posted on 02/15/2006 2:32:35 AM PST by Soaring Feather (~www.proudpatriots.org~Supporting Our TROOPS~)
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To: w_over_w
9. St. Louis; is also called, "The Gateway to the West" and "Home of the Blues".
I didn't know that.
58 posted on 02/15/2006 3:15:23 AM PST by Soaring Feather (~www.proudpatriots.org~Supporting Our TROOPS~)
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To: alfa6

Also ask your nephew if he has heard of us.
Primary Challenge and Free Buffalo
and my friend Satish Mohan.. Honestly, ask him.


59 posted on 02/15/2006 4:35:13 AM PST by The Mayor ( Check out my site http://www.rusthompson.com/HomeImprovementandRemodelingTips.html)
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To: alfa6

February 15, 2006

Band Of Brothers

Read:
Colossians 1:24-29

I . . . fill up in my flesh what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ. —Colossians 1:24

Bible In One Year: Leviticus 17-18; Matthew 27:27-50

cover Of all Shakespeare's great plays, Henry V may rank as the most heroic. In one stirring scene, the English army stands fearfully before superior French troops. King Henry challenges his men to take heart. Because the battle will be fought on "the feast of Crispian," their victory will be remembered in its yearly celebration. The king tells his men, "This day is called the feast of Crispian . . . . We in it shall be remembered; we few, we happy few, we band of brothers."

Today, the US Marine Corps refers to itself as a "band of brothers." There is something about interdependence and personal sacrifice while under fire that binds people together for life.

Christians facing opposition can also have such a bond. Paul wrote, "I now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up in my flesh what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ" (Colossians 1:24).

Did Paul believe Christ's suffering on the cross was insufficient? No, His atonement was completely adequate for all our sin. What Paul meant was that as we complete Christ's work on earth amid painful opposition, we share in His sufferings. Jesus suffered for obeying the will of God, and so must we. But like Paul, we can find joy as we draw closer to our Lord and our band of brothers and sisters. —Dennis Fisher

Oh, how we need support in times
Of suffering and despair—
Upheld with love by saints of God
Who understand and care. —D. De Haan

Suffering can be a magnet that draws the Christian close to Christ and fellow Christians.

FOR FURTHER STUDY
Why Would A Good God Allow Suffering?

60 posted on 02/15/2006 4:36:04 AM PST by The Mayor ( Check out my site http://www.rusthompson.com/HomeImprovementandRemodelingTips.html)
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