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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers the Air Campaign Against Rabaul (11/1943) - July 28th, 2005
World War II Magazine | November 1999 | Jon Guttman

Posted on 07/27/2005 9:00:37 PM PDT by SAMWolf

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To: w_over_w; USMCBOMBGUY; snippy_about_it; Professional Engineer
The female bodybuilder photo does not arouse negative feelings in me. I mean, she is just a bodybuilder, though a very advanced one. As far as "attractive" goes, that is a matter of taste. I find the "young boys with huge t*ts" look very unfeminine, and indeed, depressing. Extreme natural skinniness combined with augmentation surgery, ugh.

Seen a bunch of women athletes, known some a little. My older younger sister's girl was a hard core gymnast. When she was 15 I asked her how many chin-ups she could do, and she replied that she did not know, but had done fifty without pause the week before. She said, "Maybe eighty." Watched her do a few. Very, very smooth. 80? Easily. 100? Very likely.

I look at the bodybuilder photo, first reaction was "excellent deltoids, thick back but no definition, not flexing back properly, no trapezius or neck. Calves are developed incorrectly with exaggerated gastrocnemius. Nice triceps and hamstrings. Waistline and underskin layer shows steroid bloating." (I can give you the details if you want.)

Attractive? Attractive? Dunno, I find "attractive" only skin deep, but ugly goes right to the bone. I was very stupid when I was young, maybe a little less so now. Now a woman becomes interesting after she begins to talk, not before.
81 posted on 07/29/2005 3:55:25 PM PDT by Iris7 ("What fools these mortals be!" - Puck, in "Midsummer Night's Dream")
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To: Iris7
"I find the "young boys with huge t*ts" look very unfeminine, and indeed, depressing. Extreme natural skinniness combined with augmentation surgery, ugh."

Wife Barb says this piece is very unclear. Darn.

The television and movie look, the print mass media, the endlessly repeated "official feminine pulchritude" line, the anorexia and plastic surgery look, I think looks like young boys with huge t__s. Really ugly personality flaws at work here. To see women like that is perverse.
82 posted on 07/29/2005 4:21:18 PM PDT by Iris7 ("What fools these mortals be!" - Puck, in "Midsummer Night's Dream")
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To: Iris7
Now a woman becomes interesting after she begins to talk, not before.

Very nice and revealing comment. I knew I liked you. :-)

83 posted on 07/29/2005 4:21:56 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Iris7
Good Evening there Iris7

Do I recollect wrongly, or did the AD have something like that "hinged bomb rack, or crutch" so that a bomb would clear the propeller?

I assume you are refering to the venerable Skyraider :-) I do not ever recall seeing a "bomb crutch" on a Skyraider. You might recall that the AD series was envisioned as a strike aircraft and not as a dive bomber. The Skyraider was even fortunate enough to get credti for air to air Mig kills in both Korea and Vietnam if my memory does not fail me.

A couple of contempary pic of Skyraiders and a restored Able Dog as well.

A nice underside shot of a restored AD

No sign of a bomb crutch on any of these pics.

Gotta go as the Mrs has requested the computer. I have to be nice as she has a cane and knows how to use it:-)

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

84 posted on 07/29/2005 4:41:41 PM PDT by alfa6
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To: snippy_about_it
Thanks, Snippy. You are fast on the reply.

The "industrialized media" guys make me gag. The stuff they push is designed to degrade, corrupt, destroy. THOSE PEOPLE (as R.E. Lee called them) just make me angry as hell. Liberals, hah. Leftists, Third International Leftists. Stalinist-Maoists.

Actually, there is a Fourth International pretty much in position now, unless it is the Fifth, not the Fourth.

If you are not familiar with this stuff, the Third was a Soviet controlled operation. Hard to say when it ended. Officially the thing was over in the middle '30s. This is hah, hah, hah.

I would tie the Fourth to the Gang of Four. Viet Nam war era, Fonda, etc.

Fifth is attempting a take over of the Democratic Party, looks like they will succeed. Still hiding fairly well.

85 posted on 07/29/2005 4:50:01 PM PDT by Iris7 ("What fools these mortals be!" - Puck, in "Midsummer Night's Dream")
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To: Iris7
Fifth is attempting a take over of the Democratic Party, looks like they will succeed.

I hear you. I wonder if there will ever be a time we can truly take back our country.

86 posted on 07/29/2005 5:12:18 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it

"I hear you. I wonder if there will ever be a time we can truly take back our country."

I am more hopeful than I was in 1970-2000. Most important, defeat is in your heart and in your mind. Your mind is by far, by far, your most important weapon. Your heart knows the Devil's work, your heart and your mind seek The Way. As MacArthur put it, "The Way, and The Light."

Might be a long fight. The Adversary never sleeps.

"Victory" means to prevail. "Defeat" means to accept defeat, to be their slave in your heart.

Oh, yeah, how about "War is a team sport!" Well, not sport, but instead life and death. Still, war is won as a team and lost by individuals running and hiding, giving up. What Those People want most is for us not to work together.

There are no atheists in foxholes. This is true.

Hope I helped some. Always here. We are going to kick their butts.


87 posted on 07/29/2005 6:56:52 PM PDT by Iris7 ("What fools these mortals be!" - Puck, in "Midsummer Night's Dream")
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To: PhilDragoo

The first A6M the Japanese put together and back into the air after the War was in about 1957. It was only flown a few times.

I saw it come over a tree line at about 60-75 feet altitude, distance about a half mile, wag the wings, make a turn to port and go back the way it came. Saw it for about five, six seconds. I was in a school bus, of all places! Tokyo, of course.

Extremely agile. Looking back, it seems to me that the controls were way to sensitive for anyone like me to fly it. Fast. No meatballs, just that wartime paint.


88 posted on 07/29/2005 7:12:41 PM PDT by Iris7 ("What fools these mortals be!" - Puck, in "Midsummer Night's Dream")
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To: alfa6
There was some kind of dohicky, called a "Douglas Something Something", or D--, dog, or something. Something to do with getting the bomb free correctly. I think it had to do with the nuclear attack mode. Maybe it pushed the bomb away, piston affair. The nuclear attack was minimum altitude, then full military throttle, then a zooming climb with automatic release when and where the lob was longest distance and time. Then see what happens. One way trip, the pilots figured, I think.

That is, if I recall the article! Don't hold me to it!

Was a long period where the SPAD was the Navy nuclear bomber.

If I can find the stuff I'll get back to you. All I have to do is put the same stuff in the Google field, eh?
89 posted on 07/29/2005 7:27:36 PM PDT by Iris7 ("What fools these mortals be!" - Puck, in "Midsummer Night's Dream")
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To: Iris7

When you have a few minutes with nothing to do check out...

http://www.abledogs.com/

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


90 posted on 07/29/2005 8:12:28 PM PDT by alfa6
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To: Iris7; alfa6
The SB2C had a bomb bay with swing-down racks as shown in this model: Revell Monogram 1/48 SB2C-4 Helldiver "USS Essex", VB-83, April 1945

Is the AD the plane delivering the napalm candygram in my favorite photo:


91 posted on 07/29/2005 10:38:47 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Iris7; alfa6
Douglas AD-6 Skyraider JPEG 1208*800 (488 Ko)

92 posted on 07/29/2005 10:42:32 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: SAMWolf

Great stuff. I saw a ad for a program on the New Guinea campaign which was shown on the History channel last year. I missed the program but wonder if any of our Military minded folks might have seen it and could tell the name.

My Dad was a Army Air Corp vet who served there but died too young for me to ask him much about his experiences. He was a radio operation on one of the air bases there. Any idea of how his service records could be looked up?


93 posted on 07/29/2005 11:04:49 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: PhilDragoo
You are seeing an AD-5 wide body spreading flaming joy. Unless alfa6 knows better!!

There is a dingus called an "ejector foot" which pushes the bomb away from the airplane sort of like the SBD bomb release yoke did.

The AD-4 was made to deliver nuclear weapons and had a special "Douglas Ejector Foot" to pop those babies out with on time delivery. There are a very few photos of an AD-4 carrying a MARK 7 60 kt device, and I can find but one, and that one will not let me copy image location. Maybe A6 has one? I'll try again tomorrow.

94 posted on 07/30/2005 12:45:59 AM PDT by Iris7 ("What fools these mortals be!" - Puck, in "Midsummer Night's Dream")
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To: Iris7
We are going to kick their butts.

I don't feel defeated, I just want the fight to be more aggressive. I want people in the streets.

You are always most helpful. :-)

95 posted on 07/30/2005 12:59:38 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Person needs always be aware that we are definitely in public.

Not going to have a rebellion against George III every again.

Remember that over one half of the population in 1776 was against the war, and at least to this extent supported the Crown. Confiscation of all property, imprisonment, and deportation is what happened to the Tories. This kind of thing turns rough.

The only way to get the people out in the streets today is to shut off their TV. Besides, running back and forth in the streets screaming changes nothing.

Folks more interested in ordered liberty than license are pretty rare.

Boy, are the Lefties capitalizing on human nature nowadays! On the other hand, watch the President. An amazing master at work. Good work can be done these days, just as good work could be done in 1776 (or 1715, or 1688, or 1640, etc.)

Just don't expect much, if anything, from 90% of the people. More like 98% of the people.

96 posted on 07/30/2005 4:35:46 PM PDT by Iris7 ("What fools these mortals be!" - Puck, in "Midsummer Night's Dream")
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To: Iris7

You are always the sensible one. Thanks for keeping me grounded in that arena.


97 posted on 07/30/2005 4:55:55 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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